sunbeam60

Hi all,

I've been using the T.16000M Thrustmaster joystick, TWCS throttle and TFRP pedals. They've been serving me fine.

I've been considering moving to the Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, but I can't touch one before buying so thought I'd ask for advice here.

The Thrustmaster is sized for massive hands ... like I'm 12, using my dad's tools 🙂

I can use them, but feels a bit like the original Xbox controller, where every button is just 0.5cm too far away.

I'm an average European, about 180 cm (5'11''), with normal sized hands and from the looks of it, the Honeycomb is equally sized for bigger hands.

Are there any smaller yokes out there? Or anyone who can directly compare the Thrustmaster and the Honeycomb?

Understood - well, once again I'm in AWE of what Little Navmap delivers for free, so regardless of this feature being here or not, I'm still a very happy user.

Fully aware this is a very old topic, but I was wondering if this is now possible (I'm on v2.6.19)?

Thank you so much for making Little Navmap, which is just awesome!

13 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

It was during the September 2021 Dev Q&A, it's possible plans have changed since then.

https://fselite.net/content/microsoft-flight-simulator-developer-qa-september-29th-2021-recap/

Awesome - that’s great news that they’re also tackling the big jets. Although that must be starting later, as their progress section only talks about G3000 and GTNs atm. 

On 8/8/2022 at 3:09 PM, Tuskin38 said:

X-Box is not the sole focus, both platforms are the focus.

Plus as Krakin pointed out above, Asobo wouldn't have contracted Working Title to make an awesome G1000 if they cared what the average X-Box user wanted.

One of the late 2021 Q&As, it was mentioned that Working Title at some point would be improving the default flight plan system I would update the ATC to use it, though that could just mean being able to read the new stuff. I think it was said they'd also be improving the 747? Or 787...

I'm pretty active on their Discord.

They're currently focussed on v1.0 of G1000NXi (coming with SU10), then onto GTN 650/750, then G3000 and ProLine 21 (which they've done once, but on the outside of Asobo's fence, so they are re-doing it now that they have a much better auto-pilot and all the inside knowledge/contacts on the inside of Asobo). It's quite clear their aim is to attract more GA and business jet development to MSFS, rather than airliner. If they've made statements about Boeing or Airbus avionics, I've missed them,

On 8/6/2022 at 7:31 PM, icewater5 said:

lol

well heres a clue for you, just that starting a thread about msfs2020 atc and crack cocaine combined was never going to end that good 🙂

just my humble opinion

LOL - well, I could have chosen a more diplomatic title for my first ever thread, granted. Next time, I'll stick to class C drug references only 🙂

On 8/6/2022 at 6:47 PM, Alvega said:

Why do you guys keep using the OP's thread where he asks for help with a specific situation to your discussion about ATC? I don't get it. Don't you see this is off-topic? Even a mod here?

No wonder he doesn't come back to the thread. Shame on you.

If it was my thread I would be really word not allowed off.

Not a problem for me, FWIW - I'm relatively new to simming, so reading everyone's opinions is actually quite interesting. My late return to the thread is more about having 4 kids and it being the weekend, so unfortunately this would have to wait till next "post bed time" moment 🙂

On 8/6/2022 at 5:30 PM, Sky_Pilot071 said:

MSFS ATC is good enough.  If you want to use a 3rd party option.  The mindless ATC whipping needs to stop.

sp

My apologies - I've clearly walked into a tense bar 🙂 on this one, but I'm even more open to being wrong than the ATC being wrong. For example, I had missed that the MSA from the SW was indeed 5000', so the altitude makes sense (although it would make for an interesting FPA given how close I was getting to INS).

But especially the 40 radial instruction puzzled me - when Navigraph had updated MSFS and the radial is clearly 41, not 40.... and I can't find any other approach that uses 40th radial, so it's not like it's stuck me on non-expected approach.

On 8/6/2022 at 3:13 PM, sd_flyer said:

Yes you are missing something obvious! Don’t use default ATC. Lol I have never used default ATC in any sim including P3D, XP, FSX. Simple reason they not good .

Try real life controller VTSIM, Pilot Edge or other network 

 

I'm working my way up to VATSIM 🙂

I've done a couple of flights on VATSIM and ended up needing a shower after both, so decided to practice for a bit longer.

On 8/6/2022 at 1:25 PM, MDFlier said:

The answer to both questions is most likely, "yes". 😎

I'm a neophyte - and writing here to be schooled - so I'm sure you are right 🙂

On 8/6/2022 at 4:24 AM, Alvega said:

According to the chart, the MSA for INS VOR is 5000ft when coming from southwest.

Ahh, yes! I had missed that ... though it does make me wonder why the approach starts at 4000' if the MSA in all bar 0-90 degrees is higher than 4000'.

On 8/6/2022 at 4:24 AM, Alvega said:

So I don't think the ATC is wrong there. The 40 radial is strange though, do you have updated Navigraph AIRAC in the sim?

Yup, active navigraph subscription and fully up to date.

On 8/6/2022 at 4:24 AM, Alvega said:

Also, did you request the transition you wanted from ATC? If you didn't he assigns you the one he wants which may be different from what you are expecting.

In the flight plan I did request the VOR ILS DME Rwy 23, but there are not STARs for Inverness, so no transition could be selected.

Hi,

(Supporting screen shots, flight plans etc. here: https://imgur.com/a/iSoJzIF)

I was doing a quick flight from Edinburgh to Inverness under IFR.

I had the following flight-plan: EGPH/24 GRIC3C GRICE DCT INBAS N560 DAVOT EGPE/INS.I23 (please see imgur link for illustrations). This was planned via SimBrief/Navigraph, exported to .pln and loaded in MSFS.

That is to say that I was coming from the south on the N560, intending to fly over the INS VOR, then following the 41 radial out to D8.5, where I do a right-hand turn to line up with the IDX LOC and GS.

As I approach from the south on the N560, ATC recognises me and says "Expect ILS runway 23" - as specified in the flight plan, so to be expected - "via INS 40 radial, 10 DME arc. Cleared to INS.".

Here I'm getting confused. "INS 40 radial" is sort of right - I was expected 41st radial, but ok. Much more confusing is the "10 DME arc" instruction as that would put me on the ADN or BONBY transition.

In addition, MSFS ATC insists on keeping me at 5000'. Now, 2500' I could understand - if it had gotten confused about which transition I was taking - but I can't find any transitions that start at 5000'.

Am I missing something obvious here? It seems to be MSFS is quite confused about how to machine read (no doubt) the AIRAC to keep the approach plate that includes INS VOR overflight.