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Round the World Challenge - Part Three

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This is the third thread in the Round the World Challenge series. We start a new thread when the old one gets to fifty posts or so, in order to make the topic easy-to-follow for everyone. To find out how it got started, follow these threads, in order:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/DCForumID8/7103.htmlhttp://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/DCForumID8/7301.htmlImmediately following this post, I'll put up a reminder of where the Baton is at the moment.Here is a summary of the rules. If you haven't read them in a while, a refresher is recommended!!! You want to avoid getting Strikes!The Challenge was started by Tornado Wilkes, who is now off on holiday. Here is his original listing of rules and goals. Please note that I have reworded some of the rules for clarity, based on questions that have been asked!I cannot recommend strongly enough that you read these rules again. There have been several strikes issued, and one flight disqualified, because of missing or misunderstanding of the rules. If you have any questions, please 1) read through the previous threads -- most rules questions have been asked and answered; 2) if you don't find the answer in previous threads, post it here. Alternatively, send me an email by clicking on the "send an email" link at the top of one of my posts.--TonyHave you ever wanted to fly around the world, but never had the time? Here's your opportunity to take part in a team effort.RULESOn 15 July 2002 (UTC), one intrepid volunteer started the RTW challenge departing Heathrow in Real World Weather. For each pilot, its up to them which way they go, however they must complete a flight of between around 1 and 2 1/2 hour duration. As soon as the leg is completed, they must post a message (with 1 screen shot - no more) on this thread and tell us exactly which Airport (inc. ICAO code) they finished at (N.B. each leg must finish on a runway).PICKING UP THE BATONAnyone wishing to take up the next leg, must reply to that "location post" simply stating that they "have the baton" (in disputes it is the first volunteer that posted who is chosen) and the challenge continues. The pilot with the baton has 3 hours to get back to the forum and post their PIREP and screenshot. If they have not returned in 3 hours, anybody may lay claim to the baton, starting at the previous departing airport -- thus making the current baton-holder's flight null-and-void. However, the 3 hour rule is flexible. If a pilot takes 3 hours and 10 minutes and nobody has laid claim to the baton, the flight is considered valid. BUT if someone claims the baton after 3 hours 5 minutes, the poor baton-holder's flight is null and void. In such circumstances, any subsequent location report posted with regard to the original flight, is deemed null and void. You may not "pick up the baton" in advance.THE THREE STRIKE RULEThe following activities will earn you a strike.A. Failure to deliver a single screen shotB. Failure to go in a sensible direction (as judged by the flaming community although the challenge still continues from where you finished)C. Failure to use real weather -- either MSFS built-in, or FSMeteo (or work-alikes)D. Failure to Travel a distance that is in keeping with the aircraft chosen and weather. This means no slewing, no speeding up the simulation rate, no fiddling with your aircraft's .air file, etc.E. Or attempt to steer or direct the flight whilst not in possession of the baton -- THIS one is the most frequently missed oneIf you earn three strikes, you are disqualified for the rest of the event.AIRCRAFTOnly the following aircraft (by any developer) may be used for this challenge:Turboprops (Single or Multi)Props (Single or Multi)HelicoptersBalloons (including blimps)NAVIGATION/ TIME OF DAYUse whatever devices you wish, and at whichever Time of Day you choose FINALLY.......Good luck all, this is our opportunity to prove that "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts" Tornado Wilkeswith edits for clarification by Tony - so please direct any questions to Tony

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Hi All,Here is the new maps and info on the route...Legs-1. EGLL-LFRB Grumman HU-162. LFRB-LFDN Piper Archer II3. LFDN-DAAJ Beech 1900D4. DAAJ-HLLT Convair 5805. HLLT-DAAJ Piper Cheyenne6. DAAJ-DATM Beech King Air 3507. DATM-GCXO Cessna 421C8. LPFL-GQQN Beech 1900D9. GQQN-GQNI Saab 34010.GQNI-GATS Cessna 421C11.GATS-DRZR Pilatus PC-1212.DRZR-DNMA Cessna 20813.DNMA-FTTC Rockwell OV-10 BroncoAirports-1. EGLL Heathrow - London, United Kingdom2. LFRB Guipavas - Brest, France3. LFDN St. Agnant - Rochefort, France4. HLLT Tripoli Intl. - Tripoli, Libya5. DAAJ Tiska - Djanet, Algeria6. DATM Bordj Mokhtar, ALgeria7. GCXO Los Rodeos - Tenerife, Spain8. GQQN Nouakchott - Mauritania, Africa9.GQNI Nema, Mauritania10.GATS Tessalit, Mali11.DRZR Zinder, Niger12.DNMA Maiduguri, Nigeria13.FTTC Abeche, ChadTotal Distance Flown: 6663 nmDistance from Origin: 2482 nmDistance to KSAN: (est.) 11395 nmDistance to Destination: (est.) 16148 nm-------------Michael"I knew I shoulda takin' that left turn at Albuquerque"-Bugs Bunny

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The baton is currently at FTTC (Abache, Chad)Next pilot, have at it!Please note: I (and others) find it helpful to follow the thread if the pilot who has landed posts his Location Post as a direct reply to the very first posting in the thread. That moves the indentation back out. It's also really helpful to put "Location Post" in the subject line. A lot of repliers simply leave the previous subject line, which can make the thread a bit harder to follow, given the size of these things!Just something to think about! Have fun!--Tony

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Michael,Please remove the long flight to Azores from the list. The flight was disqualified. The direct route flown officially was from the Canary Islands location directly to the airport to the south.Thanks!--Tony

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Tony,Sorry 'bout that, it's all taken care of. I was confused because both of hawkeyez' posts indicated he was leaving from LPFL, even though it was disqualified.-------------Michael"I knew I shoulda takin' that left turn at Albuquerque"-Bugs Bunny

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I have the baton, AGAINThe used American Eagle Saab 340 takes to the skies once more.--------------Paul Meyerwww.Kryptonair.comTVA.com

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Well, we are airborne, 450nm East of FTTC Abeche, headed for HSSS Khartoum. If we can do another 250nm after Khartoum we'll land in HSKA Kassala. Currently crusing at FL235, VFR, and at 200KIAS, and 306knots Ground Speed. Winds are 108/15, skies are clear, and its 01:44 Local, 00:44 ZULU.--------------Paul Meyerwww.KryptonAir.comwww.TheVirtualAirline.com

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We took off from FTTC Abecha, Chad at 23:10 Zulu(sim clock) with intentions to make it as far as Port Sudan on the Red Sea which was 999.1nm from FTCC. Instead I aimed at Khartoum about 5 minutes inflight after learning a little more about the Saab 340Bs characteristics. We arrived in Khartoum a little past 01:29 ZULU(sim clock)http://www.kryptonair.com/Saab340HSSS2.jpgWe traveled an estimated 650nm for 2.4 flight hours burning 3002lbs or fuel.--------------Paul Meyerwww.KryptonAir.comwww.TheVirtualAirline.com

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Leaving HSSS approx 4:45 am local time. Gonna try and reach Riyadh.Later... Hawkeyez

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Scabbo...Dumb question... how do I post my first msg after landing "as a direct reply to the very first posting in the thread."...?"Still in the air"...Hawkeyez

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If we can still get in some questions?1. Why not use real time as well as weather?2. Where exactly is KSAN and why is it important?3. Where is this destination that is at a distance of 16,148? Is that the start point?4. Don't you think we need some over water rules as exceptions to the 1 - 2.5 hour legs?

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>1. Why not use real time as well as weather? Yeah, I'm with you. If I ever do get to fly a leg I will certainly use the Real World time (I kind of thought everyone was doing that, but perhaps I'm mistaken).>4. Don't you think we need some over water rules as >exceptions to the 1 - 2.5 hour legs? Without trying to steer the flight, I can point out that this is not necessary.

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San Diego, California(KSAN) is just north of the U.S. & Mexico Border on the Western side of the USA. San Diego is at the bottom of California, south of LA..............in other news........I was thinking that when the time comes for an overwater flight, aircraft that can handle large amounts of fuel, more than twice as much need to travel for three hours, like the PBY Catalina could go as far as they can out to see and meet another PBY Catalina at the point they meet at. Of course the other PBY or Seaplane/Amphib must fly to the rendezvouzs point and then fly to it's destination after the first seaplane/amphibs Location Post is made, which can be just a lat/lon spot, or does the aircraft have to land on a runway, but the runway for a seaplane or amphib is WATER, anywhere should be fine. If & When the time comes, I'd like to fly one of these seaplane/amphib flights. It would be pretty interesting to see if we could pull it off.--------------Paul Meyerwww.KryptonAir.comwww.TheVirtualAirline.com

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Gang...I'm 28 minutes out of Riyadh... gonna be cutting this reeeeal close so if everyone gave give me a grace of 10 minutes I'll put 'er on the ground.Hawkeyez

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Say, that is not too shabby. A Seaplane meeting. Anyone got the Clipper, the Boeing? I have the HU-16, but do not know the range. It is awful slow though. I had it planned to go with the Cessna 41C from the Afrian coast to an Island just off Brazil. Would have worked to but with a small, small amount of fuel reaining. I'll see if I can find a good seaplane just in case.

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Okay...Flew from HSSS - Khartoum to OERK - Riyadh @ FL250 running on average around 394 kts TAS.Used the Piaggo P-180... kewl fast little bugger.The baton's up for grabs.Hawkeyez

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Hey Paul...Were you flying Black Ops for some secret organization...?? ;) cause it looks like you came in to land without any lights turned on. Or were you trying to "sneak" into the airport .I managed to put together some files of a Saab 340 and I found a panel + sounds too. After I try 'em out I'll fire the plane over to you if ya want.Hawkeyez :-kewl

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Edited out - I moved the info on Hawkeyez destination to a location post, but by the time I had it posted, the baton was in motion again, invalidating my post. :)--Tony

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Scabbo... (remember I'm dumb)How do you post a location post like you did...? I'm missing something here.As well, can you recommend a good free nav aid tool for flight planning?Thanx a bunch... Hawkeyez :-kewl

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Hey guys, try to aim across the asian continent and to the NORTHEAST corner in Siberia. We could cross the Siberian Strait into Alaska on a short hop and then head down the West US/Canadian Coast to San Diego!!! Then from there, head up to Northeastern Canada... to Iceland, over to Ireland and down to Heathrow!!! No long water journey necessary!! (although it isn't the fastest route...it sure is scenic!!)

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PIREP:AIRCRAFT: USAF BEECHCRAFT B-1900 AIRLINERENROUTE OERY TO OMAAALT 15,500 VFR GS: 270 ETA: 11:00 (O3:00 EDT).DIS THIS LEG: 432 SCREENSHOT FOLLOWS UPON LANDING AT OMAA.

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Hawkeyez, to do the location post the way I did, just go to the very first post in the thread (the one with the rules) and reply to it. That will then show up at the bottom, with no indenting.I can't personally recommend a freeware flight planning tool. I use FSNav 4 (payware, but worth it). If you use the search feature for this forum, you'll almost certainly be able to find that question (and answers to it!)--Tony

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Eagle92395, STRIKE!!!!!Attempting to direct the course of the flight while not currently holding the baton earns you a strike! (see the rules at the top of the thread, strike-earning actions, #5!):)Warning - Bad Pun Incoming! - If Eagle earns a strike, is that an F15? (a Strike Eagle) I know, it's really bad pun... but it's 2:20 in the morning for me. :)--Tony

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