Actually, James, its not really that hard to do dull metal. You can just use a metal gradient included with your painting program, make your own, or even use Eric Cantu's metal gradients. Then, once you've done that just place an alpha of about 50 over it to give it a semi-shiny effect. I've been messing around with it, but thats how I do it, and a few other people I know do it.Scott

Hmmm, ok. I might have to give it a go then tonight :-)http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/edenw/FS_..._banner_je6.jpg

James, that's the bestest Bonanza ever seen - simply gorgeous....