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Questions for the 767 gods....

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Hello all. I'm new to the forum, however, I'm an experienced sim-pilot with log hours dating back to when MS first came out with the 'green' screen & polygon graphics flight simulator....ahh, the good ol' days...lol. Anyways:Question: Engine out procedures, specifically when taking-off and/or when on approach. I seem to frequently crash when practicing such procedures and my virtual passengers are getting tired of this. Could someone tell what the proper procedures are or provide a web page in which I could read up on the subject? Currently, when landing with one engine, I experience severe yaw and have little to no aileron/rudder athority. I suspect that I must be much to slow for the conditions. When I apply more thrust I just end up yawing even more, stalling, and kissing the terrain at around a 45 degree bank angle. When takeing off I'll kill one of the engines and will experience the same conditions. To recover from this seems almost impossible becuase I am so low to the ground. If I cut power and pitch down, sometimes I can gain enough airpseed back to reapply power and climb again. Any tips, pointers, suggestions (or even jokes) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.-=MB=-

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/Tord Hoppe, Sweden

Like SAS253 says, you need to have autocoordination off but there are two other essentials. 1. Run the latest version of FSUIPC.2. Make a change in the aircraft.cfg file,---RUDDER_EFFECTIVENESS=4.0---(change the effectiveness from 1 to 4, thats from my memory as I am not at my home computer so forgive me if I don't list that variable exactly correct)The combination of autocoordination off (assuming you have the ability to control your rudder axis), FSUIPC, and increasing rudder effectiveness to 4 will allow you to get the job done.

exactly. turn off right yaw dumper - this will turn off auto coordination.The procedure in brief is first to level the airplane using ailerons. when aircraft is leveled, push the rudder pedal underneath the lower yoke "horn" - that is the right pedal if your yoke is turned right and vice versa.don't change rudder pressure to often or you might lose control - keep it still. when you have the airplane in control, do the rest of the stuff, like changing configuration, apply max con thrust etc.It is good to use the "hourglass" pointers on the top of the ADI - you have to turn the yoke towards the lower triangle in order to bring it back to top and get the hourglass shape.Oh and lower the nose to 10-11 degrees, not more.as I said - in brief :-)Ilan

SAS263,Another software (rather than technique) change required is to adjust the rudder effectiveness in the aircraft.cfg file to a number around 20 to 23. Now you will have enough rudder authority (with autocoord off as per the previous post) to apply the correct technique:Failure after V1-apply full rudder (maybe a bit less, depends on your speed and power settings) to maintain the centerline. Hold that input and rotate at Vr, climb at V2 to a safe height and then accelerate, clean up and reduce to climb power. Use aileron as required to keep the wings level (or 5 deg bank into the good engine if you want to use the optimum technique). Practice this a bit and it shouldn't be too difficult. Don't forget to put in some rudder trim to make your job easier (this is much easier to do in the real airplanes- just take your non-yoke holding hand and give the knob a few turns -- than it is in pic767 (have to bring up the pedestal view and then give the rudder trim a few click).On landing, make sure you take out the rudder trim before short final. Apply rudder as required (should not be nearly as much as you used on take-off). Anticipate that you will need a rudder input to counteract the yaw resulting as you reduce the good engine to idle in the flare.Finally, don't forget, use Flap 20 for a single engine approach. This will provide a better go-around capability and require less power (less rudder input) on the approach.Let us know how it all works out.Kevin in CYOW

I spent close to 3 hours practicing all kinds of failures on T/O & lnading in the 767. I set all failures enabled & 20 per hour. Made for some interesting flying. The suggestions for engine out seemed to workas well. Using a lot of rudder trim seemed to do the trick. I was able to keep control of the AC. My virtual passengers will appreciate it too.Thanks!!

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