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Many of you know of this link..... http://www.flyquietsfo.com/live/You could probably check it right now as it's up 24/7.If you don't know about it & your familiar with Bay Area traffic flow & general operations, then it's a must see.I originally posted this message in the main MSFS forum before I realised a forum for VATSIM was here.If anyone knows of any such "flight tracking" site for the SOCAL or Phoenix area, please let me know....But more specifically, I'me REALLY after a referral to good procedural ATC sites for SOCAL/NOCAL/PHX APP(DEP).I'm shooting for real life reference info (using real sectors, patterns & freqs) as opposed to any possible distortion of fact for the purposes of training soley.Cheers.

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Below link has the same type of displays for many US airports, including the LAX area.http://www.passur.com/For SOCAL "real world" procedures, you can try our VATSIM ZLA website. We have all charts for all airports, plus the TEC Routes used for real world flights between SOCAL airports handled by SOCAL only (no handoffs to the Center controllers). http://www.laartcc.org/index.php

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