Hi !I started building my own a320 home cockpit and I produced a little bit more PCB's than I needed by now ... So I'm selling it assembled. It is a re-design, so I could build them by my own hands. The functionality is exactly the same and the size is equivalent (Just a few modifications on the width of the connections).Here is the price that I'm seeling it:FS Com III US$ 30.00FSAD US$ 50.00 (with all the 8 potentiometer)Power SOurce ( up to 15V - you can adjust it and 3A) US$ 35.00I'm starting to build the other PCB's. And if anyone wants more PCB's I can sell it assembled .I'm sending some photos of my project with the customized fskey for the a320's MCDU...Any information just send an e-mail to [email protected] or reply this post ...Bye!Cadu

Enlight me the FSCOM III Is the one that connects the software to the rest of the peripherals or you need something extra?THanks.RobertoP.S: I might be interested very nice what you have done specially on the CDU.

Hi,The FSCOM III is the one you described. You just have to connect it to the PC using the serial port, power it up and connect the desired peripherals ...Soon I will be finishing the MCDU panel with all the backlighting and painting ... If you want any information, please, feel free to ask ...ByeCadu

As far as I know the people from FSbus don't want their products to be used for non-freeware things. So maybe you should be carefull with this and make sure it's ok with them.Don't get me wrong here, I would be the first one to chear this kind of thing because I for one am not able to make my own prints (I can assemble them but not make the printboard itself). Because I believe there are soooooo meny people out there that wish to use this FSbus and are not able to make them themselves and (as myself) don't realy know where to find some company which can make them + how to let them know how they should be made etc. Plus you got all these questions they ask ...So I believe it would be awesome if the Fsbus team would give permission for some people from different countries to make the PCB's and maybe assemble the prints and then sell them for a price close to the cost it takes to make them. Maybe it would be great to have the FSbus team to set up maximum prices and then let people go crazy on selling these on order !!Since I'm from Belgium and I suppose you are not from europe + I don't want to buy stuff that has to be shipped for long distances etc .. I'll not go in on your offer but for sure I'm looking for someone who can make me some PCB's that is located in Belgium, Netherlands or maybe France.

If you want bare naked ( but holed )or complete ( and tested ) FSbus boards you can try here : http://www.cockpitsonic.de/index2.html This company is located in Germany so the cost of postage should be ok. I already placed an order for their COM an DISPLAY boards. Regards.

Nice webpage, but wishing it can translate in English... Do you know any similar one??

For translation of that page use the GOOGLR tranlation page. It's free and can translate other languages as well. Here are the links for your convenience...http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=enthen ...http://www.cockpitsonic.de/Regards,Tom

Hi,As I said in my original message I did not create a company or anything like that. And I'M NOT USING THE PROJECT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, but only helping people to get their project done.I already talked to Dirck Anderseck and it's ok what I'm doing, since it is an open project and everybody can use it without my help if they want to.The only thing that I'm doing is making my home cockpit and offering my experience to help them with their projects.As far as I know there are people who are selling the exactly same thing as mine. To express my point I can make a comparison:The Fscom (mainboard) that I'm selling assembled and tested costs USD 30.00 and they sell it for USD 89.00Please don't get me wrong here...Cadu

Hi folks,a few words to all, who are going to sell fsbus and to those people who like to buy it.FSBUS was designed to be freeware for people who know how to build electronic components.To all others: why don't you buy ready made products from one of the existing companies ? FSBUS is a project. A final state is not yet reached. There are bugs, which needs to be fixed and there are ideas for more controllers.What, if these enhancements require changes in the layout?It is easy to make new layouts of pcb's. That's done by many people. As long, as this is private, there is no risk. But keep in mind, the action (and by far the most work) is done by the software, flashed into the microcontroller. And that is only tested with the original layout. There is a small, but existing risk selling other layouts. You sellers have to guarantee the function.In germany (i don't know much about other countries law) a company has to fullfill a lot of legally requirements and product liability can cause a lot of trouble.In fsbus homepage, i wrote: fsbus is for private use and any comercial use without my agreement, is forbidden. I believe, if fsbus would turn to much from hobby to commercial, it would die. It would be as cheap or expansive as other products are. The decisions of product development would be driven more by financial aspects than technical goals.And at last: the only person, who should found such a company, is the one who has all the rights and more important, the source code and that is me. In the forseeing future, this will not happen.If somebody makes pcb's for others, no problem.If a company sells this with profit, they should ask for my agreement, but i will not force this much.This week i have written more and more emails concerning these commercial apects. The remaining time for development was ZERO. That's not, what i wanted.I hope for understanding.kind regards Dirk

Hi,First of all I would like to explain what is happening concerning my participation to that discution. I live in Brazil and here we have lots of difficulties to design such PCB's. Since I'm a electrictal eingineer student and have access to such method of fabrication I thought it would be helpful for people who want it but have no knowledge at all.I would like to say that I'm always trying to help freeware projects. Although I don't have info about the price that it would cost in Europe I would be very interested to know if the price is reasonable.To prove that I always encourage the freeware projects, please ask for Robert (ProMFD - I'm very sorry to put you into this!). I sent him a copy of the A320 CBT last thursday and I didn't want to charge him for anything, not even the shipping cost. It was my option to do it and I did it to see if I can make people help each other with the knowledge that they acquired on their projects.Many times I asked for help like drawings or even just measures of the flightdeck and nobody answered me. Please, don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I'm just saying that we could help more each other.I'm just making and selling these assembled PCB's to give people who want a flightdeck and have no money to do that with EPIC and nor the intruments to execute the project. People around the world are interested to it and I thought it wouldn't be such a big thing to help them. Giving them the opportunity with reasonable prices (Fscom - USD 30.00, how much it costs to make this PCB in Europe or another country ?).So, please Dirk, if you want me to stop doing this please send me a message and I will do it ...Bye,Cadu

Hi Cadu,the previous message wasn't addressed to you personally, but to all those who are making big business plans. Cadu, you have asked long before and i agreed to what you are doing.You are selling this as private person (i think so). I wanted to warn those about the risks, who found a company based on fsbus. Believe me, there are some. regards Dirk

Hi,Please be sure that I'm doing it without any intention to create a company or anything else. I'm in the second year of electrical engineer and my biggest intention was to learn, since my emphasis will be electronic systems ...The only thing I do is to make the PCB, assemble it and give them working for people who wants it. I give no support (just the one which is related to my work. Only if it is my fault) for the fsbus nor the responsabilty for layout changes or any other situation.I hope there is no misunderstanding ...Thanks for everybody,Cadu

Hi CaduYour asked about the prices for PCB in europe.I have made my own PCB for FSCOM, FSKEY, FSDO and FSDISPLAY, and those 4 PCB have a cost off about 10

Hi Finn,Sorry for the curiosity .... but it is included all the components and cables ?

30USD is quite reasonable price to fully working tested board.I have made few bords too to my firends (with Dirks permission) and price in Finland is between 15-35 euros depends on board. 25-30 euros for COM-board.Also it is sad to hear that Dirk's time is going to ansvering e-mails. I have been waiting next version of FSBus2 like rising sun. But Dirk, take your time. As i see that it is better when you don't do it hurry. I have time to wait. Hope others think same way.Nowdays FSBus have so many users that we can solve problems and give advices without spending all Dirk's time.Btw, Cadum. Possible to get your MCDU board PCB-layout? Saves our time when we start building one.- Jhttp://www.mikkila.org/fsbus