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Open GL - glass cockpit - T Layout

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Hi,There are several glass cockpits available out there but all are restricted to the last generation of Airbus or Boeing.As said in an other thread the major part of today flying planes, heavies, commuters, turboprops, business jets still have cockpits with the instrument "T" layout, some of them still with 100% analog gauges. But during the 70th and 80th have been developped several airplanes with glass cokpit using the T Layout. BOEING 767/ 757 737-200 -300 - 400 - 500. AIRBUS A300 - A310DASH 8 100/200/300ATR 42 and 72 in all config. any many, many many more......Neither free, share nor payware software companies are offering today glass cockpits featuring Upper PFD, Lower ND with left ASI RMI analog gauges and right ALT and VSI analog gauges ( I mean OPEN GL .exes not .gau gauges). I am sure that there are an huge amount of cockpit builders just bored by the "unsexy" flat, annoying Airbus A320 and BOEING 777 cockpits. I am one of them. Unfortunately, I am not programmer. Would it be different, I would try to use the codes of the Open Classcockpit project and make it myself, but as said, I am not skilled in that area. I red in some thread here that new companies are willing to offer NEW (???) hard and softwares for cockpit builders. What do they plan ?? BOEING Tripe seven and Airbus A320 - boring, boring, and I would say even stupid on a marketing point of view. Why trying to do, what other have done, and some well done since a long time. I just have the impression that it fits to the current rules imposed by the Good Market which tries to tell us that we are unique when we wear the same clothes, drink the same coke, eat the same sh....I stop here........enoughJust hoping that a skilled and generous soul thinking differently will take the challenge and make a T Glass cockpit and no matter if if will be free, share or payware.Thanks a lot in advanceRogerhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/53708.jpg

Project Magenta is threatening to release some turboprop/light jet instruments in the reasonably near future. I couldn't find much on their site about it other than a brief blurb:http://www.projectmagenta.com/comingsoon/index.htmlAnd there's a screenshot of the PFD here:http://www.projectmagenta.com/comingsoon/rj.jpgI would think that they're also working on a nav display/etc.So that's not a complete solution but hopefully closer to what you want than the Airbus/Boeing stuff.Also - you are probably already aware of this, but RealityXP has JetLine2 and JetLine4 avionics sets; I am running JL4 in the Learjet and KingAir and they work well and look marvelous. Of course they're FS9 gauges so you can't run them remotely, but if you can live with having the instruments run on the same machine as FS, they're very nice.I posted a couple screenshots of the JL4 popups here:http://blave.smugmug.com/photos/1663408-O.jpghttp://blave.smugmug.com/photos/1663409-M.jpgcheers,Dave Blevins

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Hang on to your shorts........Something big is brewing at PM.Mike

I am in contact with Enrico and with his last mail he clearly stated that there was no ETA now for that product. Too much time to spent with other things.As regards XP Reality, ( I have the Jetline 2). I am too in contact with them. They are trying to get their softwares running remotely. But there is still no ETA.Roger

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I understand, and I hope you have infos I dont have. That could be the good news. ThanksRoger

Just a note that if you can find some PCI Matrox videocards (I use a Millenium and a Mystique myself, stuff from 1996 etc) - they work great as "gauge holders" when hooked to the main FS machine. There is virtually no framerate hit since those are just 2D panels, so then you can use your favorite panel editor, whether it is Notepad or CfgEdit or FS Panel Studio :).. Create a full screen 1024x768 or 1280x1024 black background panel that you move to the Matrox monitor. JetLines work great there and you can combine your favorite "steam" gauges next to them. One can even replace the (usually) low resolution bitmaps with better ones and if one has some XML skills, making your own gauges is possible too.So this way you only need one computer if you dont need several outside views. Or even, put an AGP Parhelia + 2-3 PCI Milleniums or such and you have quite nice setup without the networked-pc-farm hell.As long as it's just one 3D view (or parhelia with 3) it'll work fine from my experience. Some folks had more than two PCI cards added and they claimed it worked fine.Tuomas

Thomas,There is a hit in frame rate, indeed. Simulation has to be perfect and 50 Fps should be the standard. Some people believe that 25 Fps are enough because used in the motion pictures industry. False. As a filmmaker, director of hundreth of movies for television, believe me, paning at 25 fps from left to right at higher speed gives you the undesirable strobe effect. Video with 50 ( Europe) 60 ( USA) Fps does not have that weak point. When simulating an aircraft making a 90

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