Has anyone thought of building a Concorde cockpit?I have seen a lot of different cockpits being build including myself with a 777, but I have never seen or heard of a Concorde sim.Is it too hard? (as in finding dimensions etc)If there is one, I'd love to see it.David

Concorde cockpit parts are rare and a lot of collectors are looking for them. A Boeing 737 MCP are going to be more and more expensive, and COncorde MCP for example or any little indicator is out of proportion compared to the most wanted aircraft.Last year there was an auction in Paris were several cockpit parts have been sold by....Christie's. I had offered 200 euros for a Gear Lever which was sold for almost 1000.But good Luck nevertheless.RegardsRoger

>Concorde cockpit parts are rare and a lot of collectors are>looking for them. >A Boeing 737 MCP are going to be more and more expensive, and>COncorde MCP for example or any little indicator is out of>proportion compared to the most wanted aircraft.>>Last year there was an auction in Paris were several cockpit>parts have been sold by....Christie's. I had offered 200 euros>for a Gear Lever which was sold for almost 1000.Well, there's always this one thing too. Many times people jump into doing a cockpit for a certain type of a plane - but later realize there is no good add-on plane or flight model for Flight Simulator available. Or there is, but it is impossible interface completely (like PMDG 737)So, I know there are some concorde add-ons around, but really, whoever wants to do a home cockpit should really do a through study of the idea beforehand. Think everything through. Check if it is actually possible? Find the good flight model and see you can interface or implement the aircraft systems somehow in your own setup. Of course this all depends on your view of realism and what should be modelled and working, but it is nevertheless good to check first before buying parts or panels or building a cockpit and then finding out something does not work out.So think before you start :)//Tuomas

absolutely right.this is the first step to take I think. right after making a list of planes you like to fly off cours.figure out if there is an interfacable panel available for it. and if not .. maybe there is a good freeware and the creator wants to help out (like in my case).what Espen is doing for me and the F50 panel is what PM is for 320, 340, 737, ... etc etc.

Philipp,What is ESPEN doing for you??? GreetingsRoger

Not ee es pee en :( (ESPN)Espen Oiyordsbakken .. but I guess you realised that :-lolWhat he is doing is:1) program key commands directly into his gauge code. This way I can just send key commands with whichever interface to FS and not worry about FS variables (which give problems when using the autopilot climb rate when turning on ALT e.g.)2) he has been (and I hope he still is) working on adding code to the gauge file so that he can send out data via fsuipc offsets. He agreed with Pete on some offsets reserved for this and this way I will be able to read from fsuipc the status of certain LEDs and the altitude set in the autopilot.The altitude from the autopilot because this is a variable he uses in his panel that is NOT set to be the same variable as the one from FS (explanation, see above).The LEDs because this way I can set my LEDs in sinc with the ones on his panel in FS and this way also I can know if a function is on or off (as in "in sinc with FS" again :-lol)What else can I wish for, right ??Perhaps that he makes more switches actually do something .. or correct some errors I know that are different in real .. perhaps.

But will the panel gauge be able to run as standalone on a remote computer???Just thinking that since you compared to Project Magenta software.Thats' was my concern.RegardsRoger

>But will the panel gauge be able to run as standalone on a>remote computer???>Just thinking that since you compared to Project Magenta>software.>>Thats' was my concern.Probably not.Although one can use a second monitor with a PCI videocard just fine on the "main" PC for gauges, it has no real framerate hit for me. But you knew that already I bet :)Tuomas

I use the "Old Efis setting" of the Project Magenta Boeing Glass Cockpit.I am very happy with, but the problem with it is that there are only specific Boeing feature implemented and the exe file carries a lot of feature I really do not need, so I would be happy with the same thing but specifically dedicated to regional commuter like the Fokker 50, 100, Dash8, ATR 42, an so on, which all have the same T layouted Efis.RegardsRoger

Yeah I would like to get the bae type system, but like you the old style looks to be as close as I can get.

>I use the "Old Efis setting" of the Project Magenta Boeing>Glass Cockpit.>>I am very happy with, but the problem with it is that there>are only specific Boeing feature implemented and the exe file>carries a lot of feature I really do not need, so I would be>happy with the same thing but specifically dedicated to>regional commuter like the Fokker 50, 100, Dash8, ATR 42, an>so on, which all have the same T layouted Efis.How about the Reality XP EFIS system? I know the problem is their lack of FMS for now.I decided in the beginning to go with "steam gauges" and HSI in a piston twin - a lot less fighting with add-on planes that just cannot be made to work well.. Perhaps I'll do a GNS530 now that our Cessna is having a Garmin 430, so it'd be beneficial for getting familiar with the unit. Too bad you cannot update the database on any of the FS Garmin add-ons since they all use the Garmin trainer.. :/I'd use the default GPS even if one could just input a flight plan from it..//Tuomas

Tuomas,A standalone exe for instruments on a client is really an experience I cant live without. I have spoken for years with the XP reality guys but it seems they do not want to make their instruments able to run on a client.Furthermore, they just have the EADI and EHSI but not the steam gauges right and left from the EFIS as it is in Project Magenta.That's what I use, but it is too Boeing oriented. And XPReality is far from that. CheersRogerhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/101596.jpg

>Tuomas,>>A standalone exe for instruments on a client is really an>experience I cant live without. Maybe you have explained it before even, but why? What I have in mind is for example a full screen black background panel just like on your screenshot - with Reality XP EADI and EHSI, plus whatever other "steam gauges" you find - for example there is this really really good vertical speed indicator with integrated TCAS which has aural alerts and all.. (search avsim file library for ilh_tcas_v4.zip)http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Loca...e&ImageID=61847Plus there must be a bunch of other steam gauges one can use (or edit some existing XML gauges with proper bitmaps)So what I wonder is why do you explicitely want it to run on another computer? Did you get a framerate hit? Because for me there is absolutely no slowness, and it behaves just like Magenta, except that its not opengl, so some smoothness for the artificial horizon would be nice - but realityxp fixes that. So the FMS missing is the only issue.So I am interested in knowing more, sorry if you have already explained this all before :)//Tuomas

Tuomas,2D instruments have a high CPU load, your cant disagree with that.Using a second card can help, but your CPU load will still be there.When I get 50 fps on a full screen I will only have 35 with a simple panel running.As I often explain I would even split the Flight model, Sounds, Visual, ATC, evrything on Client computers just in order to get a smooth simulation.There is (unfortunately) nothing on the market coming close to Project Magenta cockpits. GreetingsRoger

Oh yea, that makes sense then, indeed. Without any panels it indeed is faster.Of course one could then just go with the Magenta "regional jet" setup.. but that's all glass - and one then needs to operate it very differently, since those are flown pretty much all automatic in real life (since if you have the equipment, sure you want to use it) - I know what you mean. Analog cockpit is much more interesting in the simulator.What if Magenta came up with a gauge system where you could add your own background images for gauges, that'd be sweet. It would then draw the gauge hands over it, smooth and you could choose from a few different gauge pointer styles.Hmm. If I could program.. it wouldnt be THAT hard to do an openGL system that interfaced, to, say, the iocards protocol (they have something that works over tcp/ip I think - so it could run on Linux even.. Hmm. Worth pondering - too bad I am not a programmer.//Tuomas