Hmm cant give you to much info bout thatbut check this sitehttp://www.vfr-cockpit.fr/You may find some Lear stuff hereThe cockpit building is a long run, expencive, time consumingand efforts demandning projectSo my advice to you--do good research and planning , before you decide and startAnother good idea is modular approch with long term thinkingThis way you could fly your upcomming cockpit in any stage and add more and more futures step by stepRegards:-)

YossFirstly thanks a million for your input,I will definately research the leajet cockpit project.I wil go with the modular approach this way I can fly as build.I am going to start with the main Instrument panel and the avionics.Thanks GuysRalton Mann

>http://www.excitingsimulations.com/cockpit>>This guy using betaoinnovation inteface and RealityXP>gauges--alsow an optionExcept that I am not sure how to implement the systems logic with the betainnovations interface. Alex did not reply whether it is actually possible or not.Thus with my current knowledge of available possibilities, I recommend SIOC which is a better option for simulating aircraft systems.PMSystems would be a solution that would work well with the betainnovations interface, but as was mentioned, it is not cheap.Be warned though, implementing whole jet airplane systems with sioc is not a trivial task and takes time and a lot of research (because you first need to know *how things work in real life* before you can simulate them with SIOC. But I think it can be done.Divide the thing into separate systems, study how they each work and implement them one by one, perhaps?And start with the most vital ones you need, stuff like pressurisation etc can be left to the end of the list :) This way you also learn how to operate the plane. There's no use to build a complex simulator if one does not care to learn the correct operating procedures.//Tuomas

Hi TuomasI agree 100% with you as I would like to simulate all the systems on the lear 45 or atleast most of it.Could you perhaps help me with SIOC and simulating the systems logic.Tomorrow I already start building my MIP with plexiglass (backlighted) and RXP Gauges and the lower panel on the MIP.I have drawn up the plans myself from pics I found on the net.I would appreciate it if anyone could give me more info on systems logic with the lear 45,I have searched the net but no luck.I would be really lucky to find a lear 45 pilot at my local airport willing to assist.So 2morrow first steps of building start :-)Next I will probably build the throttle quad or the MCP if I can find out the functions of the buttons on the MCP as all the pics on the net with MCP are not clear enough to make out what the button means.But Once again ThanksYou guys a amazing bunch of people.Ralton Mann

>Hi Tuomas>>I agree 100% with you as I would like to simulate all the>systems on the lear 45 or atleast most of it.Could you perhaps>help me with SIOC and simulating the systems logic.Well, you need to first know what to simulate, how the systems work. Then divide them up per system, and think.Then the next stage would perhaps to draw up a flowchart or such (basically the "press this button -> led lights up, pressure gauge starts to show pressure -> after this it is possible to start engines" -type of logical chart of how things work. But you definitely need a pilots operating handbook or just quite a bit of systems knowledge or a friend you can consult about aircraft systems, to figure out everything.Unfortunately I don't know very much about jets. One interesting read would be to download the Level-D simulations 767 add-on handbook which is very comprehensive. While it is a different airplane, many of the basic principles on how things work are similar on all planes. http://www.leveldsim.com/sevensix_downloads.asp>Tomorrow I already start building my MIP with plexiglass>(backlighted) and RXP Gauges and the lower panel on the MIP.I>have drawn up the plans myself from pics I found on the net.How do you intend to do the flight plan input? RealityXP has no FMC gauges yet (planned thouhg, but that's been for a while now, and they seem to be focusing on general aviation gauges now)Of course one could use the GNS530 as a flight management computer, for programming flight plans and driving the autopilot etcetera. While it would not be exactly "Lear 45", it would make a functional avionics system.//Tuomas

Hi TuomasCan I not use Project Magenta's FMC in the meantime.Could it work or else I would just have to use RXP'S GPS Unit for flight plans until they release the FMC unit which will be great.Any Replies welcomeThanksRalton Mann

>Hi Tuomas>>Can I not use Project Magenta's FMC in the meantime.>Could it work or else I would just have to use RXP'S GPS Unit>for flight plans until they release the FMC unit which will be>great.You probably can, but I got the impression your budget was limited..? Project Magenta has the "Regional Jet" -avionics suite that would make the whole avionics pretty nicely. But it's not cheap. And you will probably need another computer to run it, since PM needs an OpenGL accelerated video card, which you have, but your FS2004 needs it too..//Tuomas

TuomasMy budget is limited I thought that maybe I could push myself just for the FMC as a stand alone product,but I will definately not be able to afford the regional jet avionics suite and I agree it definately looks awesome.I was playing around with SIOC,but it seems so difficult all those variables and offsets and writing those codes WOW.I am going to try to go to Lanseria airport which is a local airport close to me.I am going to try and get some lear 45 pics and some info.I am going to try to get a pilot handbook for the lear 45 so I can start writing codes for the lear45 which is probably going to to be a long process but worth the time.Do most people use the standard lear 45 model or is there a addon lear 45 for MSFS 2004.Any Info would be greatly appreciated.Well if I don't get the required info to write the systems logic for the lear 45 then I am just going to have to go with my life long dream the Boeing 737-800 ThanksRalton Mann