June 22, 200322 yr Hi guys,I had a new thread running about my bios problems before the Forum crash. it now seems post crash that some of the threads have disappeared! Never mind!Here's what is going on....I have recently built a new machine from scratch and i am having problems with the bios settings!When i boot up my system the clock speed is shown as AMD Anthlon 1250mhz. When infact i have an 2800XP amd with 333FSBThe board is a MIS KT400 board.Now i fully admit that i hate playing with the bios. i havn't got a clue what i'm doing so therefore i try to leave it alone and my only input will be the boot up seqence.After my post yesterday i recieved some advice from 2 different people.Firstly i was told to download LIVE Update 2. I did this and updated my bios with all the current files! no joy. Still 1250mhz!Secondly i was told by someone else to check that my setting CLOCK FREQ was set to AUTO.I am unable to find this setting and in fear of messing up the whole thing have left it alone!I have read thru the manual several times and am unable to find any answers to my problem.Please guys what next?CheersDaren MIS KT400 MotherboardAMD 2800xp with 333FSBGeoforce 4 MX80 GB HDDWindows XP Pro
June 22, 200322 yr Hi its me again, I was the one who told you to check your Clock FREQ.tell me what board you have exactly and what processor, ill check it out...Can your ram take the 333 FSB?Jason
June 22, 200322 yr Hi Jason,Thanks for getting back to me! Typical of the forums to crash in my hour of need!Right firstlyI have 512 DDR Ram on 1 stick!On the boot up screen it says DRAM Clock = mhzSDRAM ca latency =2.5I have an MSI M6712 BoardAMD Antlon 2800XP with 333FSBCheers mateDaren:-wave
June 22, 200322 yr Goto www.amd.com and look up the Multiplier and correct frequency for your model of processor.The 'Auto' setting in the bios is a default setting and will limit your processor to a lower speed. Deselect the Auto setting.In your bios settings select the recommended frequency and multiplier. Leave all other settings like voltage in the 'Auto position.Save the bios settings and reboot. You should see the processor model number displayed on reboot.If your motherboard will not go up to the required 'speed', you may need to flash your bios, but I recommend that you get someone who is experienced to do this because you could ruin a good motherboard (unless you have a dual bios).Regards Nitram
June 22, 200322 yr My shuttle mobo didn't detect my XP 1700 properly, and so I went into the BIOS and told it I have a 133(166?)x2 multiplier.BTW, this belongs in the hardware forum.
June 22, 200322 yr Right.I have gone to the AMD site but i havn't got a clue what i'm looking for?Any chance of some help?Link maybe or some directionsCheersDaren
June 22, 200322 yr Hi Daren,by default, the 2800XP should run at 166MHz FSB with a multiplier of 13.5, giving a clock speed of 2250 MHz. What type of RAM do you have? If it's too slow (i.e. below PC2700), your BIOS may set a lower FSB for both your RAM and CPU. If this is the case, then you need to disable any 'automatic' or 'synchronized' FSB option in your BIOS, and set the speeds manually. For example, if you have PC2100 RAM, you'll set the speed for the RAM at 266MHz (2x133MHz), and the CPU at 333MHz (2x166MHz, or 166x13.5)Cheers,Gosta.http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg
June 22, 200322 yr Hey Gosta,Right i follow what your saying.My problem now is actioning your suggestions!What heading would these settings come under.I havn't got a clue when it comes to BIOS settingsCheersDaren :-wave
June 23, 200322 yr Hi Daren,this will depend on your BIOS. On mine, the settings are found under 'Advanced Chipset Features', FSB is under 'CPU External Frequency'. If you don't have a manual, check the motherboard manufacturer's website - they might have a manual to download. Also, your BIOS should have a feature that stops the computer from booting, if there are any configuration errors. This will protect you from accidentally damaging your hardware. It should be enabled by default, and it's normally found on the main page of the BIOS.If you can take a note of your BIOS pages, I could probably show you where the settings are.Cheers,Gosta.http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg
June 23, 200322 yr Arrrrrggggghhhhh.How much do i hate this bios.......Right.I went into advanced chipset features and found 2 headingsDram timing controlAGP timing controlI opened up both of them and nothing looked like what you was on about.So i had a look around....Frequency and voltage control..Had the followingSpread spectrum -/+ 0.25%CPU FSB Clock 100mhz (Will only go to 280) didn't touch it!CPU Ratio AUTO. Would on go to x13. Tried it. still the smae 1250mhz on boot up! Put it backto auto!CPU Vcore AUTODDR Voltage AutoTermination volt AUTOAGP Voltage AUTORight thats it! Still stck. WHAT AM I DOING!!!!!!!:-mad Daren
June 23, 200322 yr Hi Daren,From your settings, it looks like your CPU is severely underclocked (100MHzx12.5=1250MHz). Try the following settings:CPU FSB Clock 166MHz,CPU Ratio 13.5What do you see under the heading 'Dram timing control'? Cheers,Gosta.http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg
June 24, 200322 yr YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE :-wave :-wave :-jumpy :-jumpy :-jumpy Thank you Gosta!Infact thank you all for your help and support. It's appreciated!Right so i did what you said Gosta and changed the CPU FSB Clock Fom 100 to 166mhzCPU Ration from AUTO to 13It worked!!! I now have 2800+ XP on boot up!!!!!Here are the DRAM timing control figures you asked for just incase it matters now!Config SDRam timing by SPDSDRam Freq 266mhzSDram burst length 4QWSDram IT command DISABLEDFast command NORMALFast r - 2 - r Turnaround DIASBLEDMany thanks again guysDaren
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