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P4 2.4 to AMD A64 3700 Sandiego improvement?

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Hi guys,I currently haveDell P4 2.4 mhz 533 FSB1 gig RAMATI 9800 Pro 128 MB videoI get ok performance with the default planes, but only about 15fps with LevelD, Flight 1 727. Settings 4X AA, 8X AF, Traffic 75% airline only, most settings to max except scenery density and autogen - normal.What improvement could I expect going to the following:* ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail * MSI NX6600GT-TD128E Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail *AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail *1 gig RAMI've heard only about 20% increase for every 700mHz clock speed. That would put me a little over 20fps. Not exactly mind blowing for about $1,200 .Any comments?Thanks,

Hi Graig, the CPU will definitely signify a substantial upgrade. Nowadays, CPUs aren't about frequencies but their technology and rules like the one you mention will usually only apply when comparing same types. Fyi, I went from a P4 3GHz to a 3200 AMD64 (@ 2GHz) and whitnessed a ca. 30-40% performance increase (there where FS 'hurts' most, in dense areas). On the GPU side of things; the one you're currently looking at will probably be a downgrade compared to your 9800pro (256-bit vs 128; 4 vertex pipelines vs 3, etc). IMHO, a 6600 will only do a decent job upto 1024x (maybe 1152x?). Above the b.m. resolution(s), a better card - preferably with a 256-bit interface and 256MBs of RAM - seems indicated. Hope this adds to considerations, good luck and kind regards Jaap

I disagree with Jaap on the GPU...the 9800 Pro is 2-3 year old technology, the 6600GT is only about 1 years old...stay with the 6600GT unless you have $299 (ATI 800XL) or $399 (Nvidia 7800GT) for the higher-end video processors. Tests slow that the 6600GT out-performs the 9800 Pro even at higher resolutions and experiences with my brothers AMD 3200+ (6600GT) system (which I built) out-perform my current Intel P4 2.8Ghz (OC to 3.08) with the 9700 Pro by a considerable margin even with my faster SATA hard-drives and faster memory! :-)>Hi Graig, the CPU will definitely signify a substantial>upgrade. Nowadays, CPUs aren't about frequencies but their>technology and rules like the one you mention will usually>only apply when comparing same types. Fyi, I went from a P4>3GHz to a 3200 AMD64 (@ 2GHz) and whitnessed a ca. 30-40%>performance increase (there where FS 'hurts' most, in dense>areas). >>On the GPU side of things; the one you're currently looking at>will probably be a downgrade compared to your 9800pro (256-bit>vs 128; 4 vertex pipelines vs 3, etc). IMHO, a 6600 will only>do a decent job upto 1024x (maybe 1152x?). Above the b.m.>resolution(s), a better card - preferably with a 256-bit>interface and 256MBs of RAM - seems indicated. Hope this adds>to considerations, good luck and kind regards >>Jaap

Hi D.Enault Comparing a P4-2.8GHz with an AMD64-3200 system is comparing apples with oranges (IMHO) and my guess is the difference you whitnessed was mainly CPU related. I've seen numerous reports by FS-users swapping away from Geforce Ti4s for 6600s and their conclusions were often a ca 30% improvement. Coincidently, this number more or less equates to the memory clock difference... I think this is no surprise as both cards otherwise share similar technical data; i.e. a 128-bit interface and 8 pixel pipelines. My - simplified - conclusion with regard to display adapters, is, that they should be adapted to the display (or resolution) attached. I own 'a couple' of GPUs and tests here showed relatively good to good results for almost any 128-bit/128MB card upto 1024x (with elevated AA/AF settings). This goes for 9600pros and Ti4600s or better. To give you another example, at 1024x, the difference between a 9600pro and 9800pro (both 128MB) was zero - nada. The difference between these two @ 1280x was ca. 40-50%. Now, what could this tell us? IMHO it at least tells us a 256-bit card is more adequate for 1280x resolutions, be it 2-3 year old technology or not. Good luck and kind regards

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