Here are three real flightplans from yesterday!Jasper Rom :-wave(FPL-TRA5113-IS-B738/M-SDFGIRWY/S-EHAM0540N0455F370 LEKKO1W LEKKO UB31 WOODY UN872 KOVIN UY317 PTV UN860 LCA/N0451F390 GUERE UG21 LMG UN857 SAU UR10 DOBAN UN857 MONTO UN864 BAMAR-LEMG0248 LEZL LPFR-EET/EBUR0014 LFFF0021 LECM0136REG/PHHZF OPR/TRA DOF020805 RMK/TCAS RVR/200)(FPL-TRA5117-IS-B738/M-SDFGIRWY/S-EHAM1430-N0463F340 REFSO1W REFSO UR1 MANGO UL620 MID/N0465F350 UR1 ORTAC/N0466F370 UN866 GUR UN621 ARE UN864 NEA/N0458F390 UN864 BAMAR-LEMG0234 LEAM LEZL-EET/EGTT0017 LFFF0042 LECM0218 REG/PHHZF OPR/TRA DOF/020805 RMK/TCAS RVR/200)(FPL-TRA5118-IS-B738/M-SDFGIRWY/S-LEMG1825-N0462F360 DCT MGA UN869 BLN UN865 VTB UN867 DGO UB190 BTZ UB19 CGC UN858 VADOM UN874 VEKIN UN873 ADUTO/N0439F220 UN873 FERDI UG110 DENUT DCT HSD DCT RIVER DCT-EHAM0212 EHRD EBBR-EET/LECM0012 LFFF0057 EBUR0157 EBBU0204 EHAA0205REG/PHHZF OPT/TRA DOF/020805 RMK/TCAS RVR/200)

Hey,Great stuff. Do they really file a terminal procedure out of Schiphol? AFAIK terminal procedures in Europe are only filed in Germany, Austria and Greece but I guess I can be wrong. (Probably I am ;))

Hi Karl,You are correct. SID desginators are only filled in Germany, Austria and Croatia. In all other countries the SID designators will automatically be removed. This is also the case when you validate these flightplans with the IFPUV:(http://www.cfmu.eurocontrol.be/chmi_public/ciahome.jsp?serv1=ifpuv)Regards,Peter

Hi Peter,I have the three original copies from the flightplans and on the two departing from Amsterdam the SID designators were written on the flightplan. Maybe because Amsterdam has new SID designators since august?Jasper

Got the same with real FP from Transavia, with SID designator.Bye,Ramon

Peter,>You are correct. SID desginators are only filled in Germany, >Austria and Croatia.and also Slovenia.Cheers