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FPs EDDF/EDDM to EGLL & vv

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Hi to all.Any chance to get Lufthansa FPs from EDDF and EDDM to EGLL and back ?Thanks.Enrico

hello enricoEDDF-EGLL------------FL300-FL335 EDDF-SOBRA1S.SOBRA-Y180-BITBU-Y181-MAKIK-UY181-DEMUL-UA24-BUB-UL608-LOGAN.LAM3A-EGLL EDDM-EGLL------------FL300-FL999 EDDM-GIVMI4W.GIVMI-Y101-ALB-UL610-BATTY-UL608-LOGAN.LAM3A-EGLLEGLL-EDDF------------FL000-FL195 EGLL-DVR-L9-KONAN-G1-ARCKY-T181-DITEL-T180-OSMAX.OSMAX1W-EDDF FL196-FL235 EGLL-DVR-L9-KONAN-UL607-SPI-UT180-DITEL-T180-OSMAX.OSMAX1W-EDDF FL266-FL335 EGLL-DVR-UL9-KONAN-UL607-SPI-UT180-DITEL-T180-OSMAX.OSMAX1W-EDDFEGLL-EDDM------------FL276-FL999 EGLL-DVR-UL9-KONAN-UL607-AMASI-UM149-BOMBI-T104-WLD.WLD5M-EDDMcheck out this sitehttp://fpc.vacc-sag.orgtobi

Hi Enrico,Here are three real world flightplans... :)DLH4XV EDDM-EGLL B735/M EOBT/1200 TTL_EET/0133N0414F360 GIVMI3E GIVMI Y101 ALB UL610 BATTY UL608 LOGANDLH8H8 EGLL-EDDM B735/M EOBT/1520 TTL_EET/0115N0430F330 DVR UL9 KONAN UL607 AMASI UM149 BOMBI T104 WLD WLD5MDLH8LA EDDF-EGLL A319/M EOBT/1700 TTL_EET/0059N0450F320 SOBRA1S SOBRA Y180 BITBU Y181 MAKIK UY181 DEMUL UA24 BUB UL608 LOGAN DCTCheers,http://home.planet.nl/~duijn181/cu2/koen.jpg

The same flightplans ;)These Flighplans are CFMU validatet, so -> they are real :)greets

In my humble opinion, there's a big difference between having a real world route or a generic one that's valid, but in this case it doesn't matter much, because they are the same... ;)Cheers,http://home.planet.nl/~duijn181/cu2/koen.jpg

Yeah ok, thats right sorrygreetstobi

Hi Koen,many thanks, as usual you're very very very kind.Just a question: could you please tell me which were the alternates for those flights (I think EDDK for EDDF, but I don't know if DLH has EGSS or EGKK for EGLL and which is the preferred alternate for EDDM).Thanks again.Enrico.

Thank you very much.Enrico

LSZH is probably an alternate for LH flights to EDDM...tobi

Hi Enrico,The alternate for EDDF is EDDK, for EGLL it is usually EGSS. For EDDM the alternate would be either EDDS, or EDDN (for smaller aircraft). LSZH won't be an alternate for EDDM, because Switzerland doesn't belong to the EU (requires customs etc.). :)Cheers,http://home.planet.nl/~duijn181/cu2/koen.jpg

Hi Koen, thanks a lot.I thought that EGSS could be the alternate for EGLL. I supposed that a suitable alternate for EDDM could have been LOWS too, but realized that normally an alternate is in the same country of the original airport (even if sometimes it's not: LFLL is usually an alternate for LSGG and I remember one very foggy morning some year ago, when LIMC was below limits even for a cat 3b appch and LIMF was overcrowded and LIMJ was below limits due crosswinds, that an AAL 767 from KORD orbited over VOG then over TOP then diverted to LSZH; and another very foggy night with all North Italian airports except LIMF closed due fog and LIMF very overcrowded - they parked diverted airplane even on the taxiways - that an AZA ATR42 which was scheduled to LIML, was orignally diverted to LFMN but then decide to go as far south as LIRF !).Thank again.Enrico.

Hi,It's true that there are a lot of suitable alternates for EDDM, and I'm not quite sure which one Lufthansa uses, but I found out EDDN is the most common one for other operators... :)Cheers,http://home.planet.nl/~duijn181/cu2/koen.jpg

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