STAR procedures dictates the altitude and speed at which you needto be at points along a specific route (example: a STAR may request that you descend to cross the 30 DME fix from the ABC VOR at 10,000 feet and maintain 250 knots). What are some actual STAR proceduresthat the British Airways concorde(s) used on flights from New York-London and London-New York. As well as London-Barbados and Barbados-London?Thanks,bglass

At Kennedy concorde used the CAMRN4At Heathrow OCK1F (Ockham)(From USA) and OCK3B for the Barbados and bay flightsAt Barbados, didn't use one as there arn't anyCheers

Thanks Iain Sealey! ;-) Can you tell me the INSTRUCTIONS for each STAR (such as altitude and speed restrictions, etc.)? Regards,bglass

Oh, and I totally FORGOT!!! I forgot to ask you about SIDS in addition to STARS. So, you have already told me about the STARS for those routes, so can you find the SIDS for me too with its instructions??I'd really be happy! :-) Rgds,bglass @-@

SIDsLondon - Compton SID. New York: - 31L KENNEDY 9, Canarsie Climb

Thanks Andrew! Another question I had was how did the Concorde pilots know where the SIDS and STARS were (after ATC instructed which ones to use) since they had no FMC but only an INS system?Also, the SIDS you posted Andrew seem unclear to me for some reason...are those just for Kennedy? What about Heathrow or Barbados if any? :-) Thanks Again :-smile12 ,glassb

well, the answer to the first ne is simple...all waypoints in a SID or STAR have of course there precise locations in latitude and longtitude, so even without this fancy FMS stuff you have these days you could still know where you are and where you need to go with an INS onlyHope that helped

Thanks Salina! -glassb

Not to mention that most SIDs & STARs can be flown using only the instruments, since they're based on headings, radials & DME's.