September 22, 200619 yr I am trying to sort some flight plans out for TNCM, TTCP and TKPK.I have found a real world flight plan for a flight from Gatwick to Crown Point (TTCP)and would like to add updated NAT tracks, but where can I find these for places like Crown Point, St Kits and St Maartan. I have looked on the Vatsim web site for the UK, but there tracks are to far North. The Real World Flight plan I have is:EGKK DCT SAM UR8 GAPLI UM197 GUNSO UN486 OMOKO DCT 4520N DCT 3830N DCT 3140N DCT 2450N DCT 1856N DCT BGI DCT TTCPThanks in advance for any help.
September 22, 200619 yr HeyThat is the total flight plan that you have there you will only get a NAT track a bit further north as you have found the waypoints you have there will depend on the ETOPS range of the aircraft.Like the other day we had a flight plan for BWIA 901 from LHR to BGIbecause this day the used a charted A310 from CSA it had to use the NAT TRACK and the fly down the coast of the U.S due to the ETOPS range.Hope this helps when i get back to work i will show you an example of two different flight plans.Thanks Owen
September 22, 200619 yr Hope this helps as well12028 EGGXZOZX(NAT-1/2 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVESEP 22/1130Z TO SEP 22/1900ZPART ONE OF TWO PARTS-A ERAKA 60/20 61/30 61/40 61/50 59/60 LAKESEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370EUR RTS WEST ETSOMNAR N412B N414C N416E N424E N426E N428C N432B N434C N436A-B GOMUP 59/20 60/30 60/40 59/50 PRAWN YDPEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST GINGANAR N322B N326B N328C N334C N336H N346A N348C N352C N356C N362B-C MIMKU SUNOT 58/20 59/30 59/40 58/50 PORGY HOEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST MORAGNAR N284B N292C N294C N298H N302C N304G N306C N308E N312A-D NIBOG PIKIL 57/20 58/30 58/40 57/50 LOACH FOXXEEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST NURSINAR N264A N270B N272C N274H N276A N278B N280A N282A-E MASIT RESNO 56/20 57/30 57/40 56/50 SCROD VALIEEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST DEVOLNAR N240C N248C N250E N252E N254A N256B N258A N260A-END OF PART ONE OF TWO PARTS)212029 EGGXZOZX(NAT-2/2 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVESEP 22/1130Z TO SEP 22/1900ZPART TWO OF TWO PARTS-F 40/40 37/50 34/60 LAZEYEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 320 340 360 380EUR RTS WEST NILNAR NIL-REMARKS.1. TRACK MESSAGE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS 265 AND OPERATORS AREREMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCEREAD BACK.2. ALL OPERATORS ARE REMINDED OF THE NECESSITY TO PROVIDE VOICEREPORTS OF ANY OBSERVED NON ROUTINE WEATHER PHENOMENA.3. EIGHTY PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATION ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR COCKPITPROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAY POINT CHECKS.4. MNPS AIRSPACE EXTENDS FROM FL285 TO FL420. OPERATORS ARE REMINDEDTHAT SPECIFIC MNPS APPROVAL IS REQUIRED TO FLY IN THIS AIRSPACE.IN ADDITION, RVSM APPROVAL IS REQUIRED TO FLY BETWEEN FL290 AND FL410INCLUSIVE.5. CREWS ARE REMINDED THAT THE STRATEGIC LATERAL OFFSETPROCEDURE, SLOP, SHOULD BE USED AS A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE ANDNOT SOLELY FOR TURBULENCE/WEATHER AVOIDANCE.-END OF PART TWO OF TWO PARTS)
September 22, 200619 yr If I understand this right.The NAT tracks in the flight plan I posted could be use by the 767-300ER and the 747-400, but any other Aircraft would have to use the Nat Tracks further north.So if I wanted to change these Nat track in the flight plan I posted, I could as long as I do not go out of the Aircraft ETOPs range, so for the 767-300ER that would be 3 hours to the nearest Airport. Correct ?I did a flight plan using the Nat track further north, and it adds quite a bit of time on to the flight, but as I want to fly the 767-300ER on these flight plans I should be able to use these Nat track for flight to Crown Point, St Kitts and St Maartan.Thanks for the help, I am new to planning flights accross the pond, but am slowly understanding how ETOPs works. There is quite alot of information about flying from the UK to America, but not a lot of information about flying from the UK to the Caribbean.
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