October 6, 200619 yr Hi ,have somebody the full NAT tracks westbound ?I can only find track F and G!? Regards PITAR
October 6, 200619 yr Hey Samy,Try this.http://www.jetplan.com/tda/west.htmlor e-mail me if you can't get it.Bob
October 6, 200619 yr Author here now the full list:(NAT-TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVEOCT 06/1130Z TO OCT 06/1900ZA BALIX 61/20 62/30 62/40 61/50 59/60 LAKESEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370EUR RTS WEST NINEXNAR N412B N414C N416E N424E N426E N428C N432BN434C N436A-B ERAKA 60/20 61/30 61/40 59/50 PRAWN YDPEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370EUR RTS WEST ETSOMNAR N322B N326B N328C N334C N346A N348C N352CN356C N362B-C GOMUP 59/20 60/30 60/40 58/50 PORGY HOEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST GINGANAR N284B N292C N294C N302C N304G N306C N308E N312A-D MIMKU SUNOT 58/20 59/30 59/40 57/50 LOACH FOXXEEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST MORAGNAR N264A N270B N272C N276A N278B N280A N282A-E NIBOG PIKIL 57/20 58/30 58/40 56/50 SCROD VALIEEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST NURSINAR N240C N248C N250E N254A N256B N258A N260A-F MASIT RESNO 56/20 57/30 57/40 55/50 OYSTR STEAMEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST DEVOLNAR N220B N228B N230C-G 41/40 36/50 33/60 NUMBREAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 320 340 360EUR RTS WESTNAR NIL-REMARKS.1. TRACK MESSAGE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS 279 AND OPERATORS AREREMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCEREAD BACK.2. MNPS AIRSPACE EXTENDS FROM FL285 TO FL420. OPERATORS ARE REMINDEDTHAT SPECIFIC MNPS APPROVAL IS REQUIRED TO FLY IN THIS AIRSPACE.IN ADDITION, RVSM APPROVAL IS REQUIRED TO FLY BETWEEN FL290 AND FL410INCLUSIVE.3. EIGHTY PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATION ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR COCKPITPROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAY POINT CHECKS.4. CREWS ARE REMINDED THAT THE STARTEGIC LATERAL OFFSET PROCEDURESHOULDBE USED AS A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE AND NOT SOLELY FOR THETURBULENCE/WEATHER AVOIDANCE.5. ALL OPERATORS ARE REMINDED OF THE NECESSITY TO PROVIDE VOICEREPORTS OF ANY OBSERVED NON ROUTINE WEATHER PHENOMENA.-) Regards PITAR
October 17, 200619 yr The current track NOTAM (basically what Samy posted) is always published at at http://occ.ivao.ca -> current NATs.S.
October 18, 200619 yr Hello Samy,I only read your message now, but I assume the NAT message was again incomplete on that particular date?I also have experienced this problem occasionally in the past and I'm looking for a solution.All the websites that display NAT's (including OCC IVAO CA, correct me if I'm wrong) basically fetch their NAT from the DINS NOTAM site.If the DINS NOTAM site has stored an incomplete message, all the other sites will also display an incomplete message.Probably real world dispatchers do not use the DINS NOTAM site for their NAT's as it is unreliable. Where do they get it from?I'm looking for a website that display NAT track *TEXT* messages and doesn't depend from DINS NOTAM. Does anyone know such a site?The Jetplan site is nice and always displays the complete message but it only displays the messages graphically; I need the actual text message for flight planning...I have posted this same question on other fora and never got a reply with a new site that doesn't depend from DINS NOTAM, I hope someone can share it here... I cannot accept that I again reached the boundaries of the Internet in this case, it must be online somewhere :) .Thanks,Kind regards,Sebastian
October 18, 200619 yr Author Hi Sebastian,yeah, they were incomplete again that day, only track F and G.Well, the Jetplan site is very useful, because with the graphic you can read out the coordinates on the track. Regards PITAR
November 24, 200619 yr Hey Samy,Just saw your post and checked real quickThey're herehttp://www.gofir.com/general/nat_tracks/Bob
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