April 9, 200719 yr Hello All,I've had my new blog open for about a week now and I've developed a new weekly feature that highlights a flight plan. The first two flight plan posts focused on US domestic flights. The first, a jetBlue flight from Boston to Dulles on an Embraer E190. The second, a Delta flight from Los Angeles to Atlanta on a Boeing 767-400ER.I'm going to continue this feature weekly. I'm considering several possible plans to write about for next week. I'd like your input here as to which I should write about and which you'd like to read about. Here are the choices:1. Shortest Atlantic Flight - A330 Aer Lingus Flight from Boston to Shannon Ireland2. Domestic heavy shorthaul - 777 United from Denver to Chicago.3. Superlong Range - A340-500 Singapore Airlines Newark to Singapore4. Southwest Ultrashort hop - 737 Southwest from Houston Hobby to Austin (32 minutes)Feel free to take a look at the blog. I've put some other neat stuff on there. Including, a picture of all the 787 tails in their future liveries.http://flightblogger.blogspot.comEnjoy!Best,Jon
April 9, 200719 yr 1. Shortest Atlantic Flight - A330 Aer Lingus Flight fromBoston to Shannon IrelandI don't think so! Try Halifax to Glasgow... as flown by Zoom Airlines. That is quite a bit shorter!http://www.flyzoom.com/index.cfm?fuseactio...Dsp.dspRouteMap to see that they still fly that route regularly! Roughly 2375 nautical miles per FSBuild, while your choice is roughly 2550 nautical miles.Of course you seem to be in the U.S. and are ignoring Canada as being on the west side of the Atlantic, so it is not too surprising that you missed the flight I am listing, which is regularly scheduled. In fact there is a seat sale on now and the fare, one way, is C$99!The Zoom flights from Halifax to Gatwick are also shorter than your choice, as that is only 2500 nautical miles!
April 9, 200719 yr I stand corrected on all counts. I love this hobby, so many new things to learn from so many different people. I'll go ahead and amend the Aer Lingus flight and call it the shortest Atlantic crossing from the United States. Pardon my Amerocentric thinking, it sometimes even gets even the worldliest of thinkers in trouble.As far as Zoom goes, that's a really neat flight. I'll go ahead and add at that to my list for next week. I did some comparisons of those flights you listed. I looked at Halifax to Belfast (starting June 8), Halifax to Gatwick and Halifax to Glasgow as compared to Boston-Shannon.CYHZ-EGAA 2237 nm (starts 6/8)CYHZ-EGPH 2320 nmCYHZ-EGKK 2498 nmKBOS-EINN 2516 nmThere's just something about flying twins across the Atlantic.-Jon
April 9, 200719 yr Any chance someone actually has a copy of those flight plans? The Glasgow one would be ideal.Thanks,Jon
April 9, 200719 yr Hi Jon,I don't have a very recent plan but have two on record from a while back.CYHZ IGTAS J575 YQY J577 YQX NATV MALOT BURAK UN537 NIPIT BEL EGAAandCYHZ IGTAS J575 YQY VIXUN LOGSU 4900N/05000W 5100N/04000W 5300N/03000W 5500N/02000W ETARI MIMKU UP6 MORAG UN563 GOW EGPFI'll look for some this week.
April 9, 200719 yr Found this too on flightaware.com:Zoom 210 - Halifax - Gatwick - 767-300YJT J580 YAY NATY ODLUM UM17 DUB UL149 DIDEL UL3Not sure what NATY was at the time (date says last Wednesday)-Jon
April 9, 200719 yr Just for the heck of it, I suspect even Halifax to Paris is shorter than the flight out of Boston :-)
April 9, 200719 yr On the blog you say:All E190 flights over North America.Posted by Jonathan at 1:06 AMAgain, the same problem... you are not correct, or even close to covering all of the E190 flights over North America. You are using FlightAware, and I am a charter member of that.They only cover flights that are known to the FAA, so it is only flights that start or end in the U.S. and SOME of the flights in Canada. A flight from one part of Canada to another part of Canada or to France in North America - two islands south of Newfoundland are actually part of France - or to Mexico from Canada MAY NOT be in their lists at all, so you are missing those. Your narrow view of North America will catch you out over and over :-)
April 9, 200719 yr I wouldn't call it my narrow view of North America, I would call it not understanding what flight aware does and does not contain. Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Thanks for reading my blog too. It's good to be fact checked. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I would imagine all the scheduled E190 flights would be known to flight aware because they are all being flown by major airlines. If I'm wrong, please let me know, but I think flightaware catches a very good number of flights here.Guess it's just another good lesson on why no one should speak in generalities and absolutes.Thanks again,Jon
April 9, 200719 yr And here is one airline and destination that you likely would never see, and definitely will NOT see in any FAA records. Saint Pierre is FRANCE! It is literally part of France, and not a French territory. I wager that if you asked 100 friends in your part of the world about it, at least 99 would say 'Huh?' as no one is taught that North America still includes France, even in the form of islands :-) All international flights are to Canadian destinations.http://www.airsaintpierre.com/
April 9, 200719 yr That's awesome. Let's not use geography as a measure of anything in the United States. 70% of people my age can't find Iraq, let alone French islands off of Canada (which some may have trouble finding too).-Jon
April 12, 200719 yr Thoughts anyone? Looks like the very limited consensus bends towards the Halifax-Glasgow flight. Any other takers?-Jon
April 28, 200719 yr I finally put up the new flight plan feature.http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=11670&page=orhttp://flightblogger.blogspot.comThanks,Jon
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