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Hello all,I just upgraded from Active Sky X to ASA and so far love it!! One problem though, I flew from my home town KORF to Richmond and noticed planes were taking off and landing at the same runway #16. Which is normal, but then there were other planes landing at the opposite end #34 which is not normal???? I thought maybe a bug, so I refreshed my weather data and the flew to KRDU and the same problem with rwy 23R and 5L. Same scenario as before BUT this does not happen with FSX basic wetaher engine. What am I doing wrong? Has anyone else experienced this problem? Please help!!

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I think I need to turn my download off and keep it static throughout the flight. That was the setting I had before with the FSX weather engine and Acitive Sky X. I would get one download and if the winds shifted during the flight it would not matter. I would not go head to head with another airline!!!! Now when the download is active the winds can shift which still take me to a certain runway and in the meantime other traffic is taking off the opposit end..Agree??

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Hi,A point of information and a suggestion.With ASX, after weather processing, ASX would automatically refresh the AI system in FS.With ASA, B355 and B394 you need to manually refresh the AI system with the Refresh AI System icon on the Report screen. So once ASA and FSX are loaded please click on this icon. Then things should match up in FS.Thanks,

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Thanks Jim,I believe my version is build 315 or 316, can't remember. Where can I find official updates instead of the beta? Or do you recommend using the newset beta? Thanks for the help!Ken

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Hi,A point of information and a suggestion.With ASX, after weather processing, ASX would automatically refresh the AI system in FS.With ASA, B355 and B394 you need to manually refresh the AI system with the Refresh AI System icon on the Report screen. So once ASA and FSX are loaded please click on this icon. Then things should match up in FS.Thanks,
Hi Jim,Do I first create my flight plan in FSX then go back into ASA and import the plan? Then do I AI refresh on the report screen? If that is the case, I'm still having the problem with the planes. If I updated to the beta patch, would that help?Thanks for your help!!Ken

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Hi,Plan in FSX and make your start location a gate and not a runway.Import plan in ASA.Process plan.Refresh AI using the Icon in ASA.See what you get then and report back here.Thanks,

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Hi,Plan in FSX and make your start location a gate and not a runway.Import plan in ASA.Process plan.Refresh AI using the Icon in ASA.See what you get then and report back here.Thanks,
Sorry to be a pain but do I start FSX loaded with my flight plan then open up ASA. Then after I process within ASA then refresh AI and go back into FSX. Am I on the right track now? Thanks again!!Ken

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Sorry to be a pain but do I start FSX loaded with my flight plan then open up ASA. Then after I process within ASA then refresh AI and go back into FSX. Am I on the right track now? Thanks again!!Ken
Ok, Here we go.....I loaded ASA and then loaded up FSX. I created my flight plan (start at a gate) and the clicked "Fly Now". Once loaded, I immediately clicked ASA and loaded my flight plan and processed it. I then went to the report screen to refresh AI. I did see the FSX screen flicker thinking I did everything right. My flight plan was from KRDU to KRIC and was landing on Rwy 34 and on final a plance was taking off on Rwy 16 right at me. What am I doing wrong??? I'm almost tempted to go back to ASX and put up with that nasty haze layer. At least that worked for me. Can I get some guidance? Thanks again Jim for your support and help!!

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Hi Ken,What runway was ATC giving planes to land on?Do you recall what the destination winds were?Thanks,

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Hi Ken,What runway was ATC giving planes to land on?Do you recall what the destination winds were?Thanks,
ATC was giving planes to land on Rwy 34 and they were taking off on the other end Rwy 16. I'm sorry I do not recall what the destination winds were.Thanks!!

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Took the flight again from KRDU to KRIC and was cleared to land RWY 34 with another aircraft behind me. Taking off was another plane from the oppsorite end of RWY 16!! I dont get it...What am I doing wrong? Has anybody else experienced this type of problem? ASX works just fine, it's ASA that is the problem. I did updgrade to B394 and still the same problem.

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Hi,So what was the data for the destination airport?Is DWC On or Off?We aren't getting any other reports of this, so I am trying to gather as much information as I can.Thanks,

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Hi Jim,I do have DWC enabled and where do I find the information for the destination airport? I do realize that this is probably user error. After that last flight yesterday, I flew with ASX instead since that works for me. I might try the flight again and then post the information you're requesting.Thanks for your patience and help!Ken

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Ok, I didnt have to do much. When starting off in KRDU, ATC instructed me to take off at RWY 23R. In the meantime, AI aircraft was getting ready to take off on RWY 5L. I attached a sceenshot of the conditions at KRDU.

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Jim,There is one thing I do not do is install graphics snapshot when prompted. Instead of hitting ok, I always hit cancel. Can that screw everything up?

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Hi,No, the graphics snapshot has nothing to do with this. After ASA and FS load, you are clicking on the Refresh AI icon, correct?Try this: next time, do your procedures and sit near the runway and watch the AI activity. Is it all the AI planes that go the wrong way or just the first few? Do the AI planes also land on the wrong runway? Do you have a special AFCAD installed for that airport or default FS stuff?For that last flight ATIS did direct you to the correct runway.Thanks,

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Hi Jim,I first load ASA and then launch FSX from within the application. I then create a flightplan within FSX and start FSX. Once loaded, I then go back into ASA and load the flight plan. From there, I go into the report screen to refresh the AI and then re-enter FSX to begin my flight.I have not tried your suggestion yet but this is what I observed so far. When begining the flight, I'm directed to one RWY while the AI traffic is directed to the opposite end of a RWY. While landing, all traffic is landing on the same RWY that I'm landing on. On final is when I notice the AI traffic is taking off on the opposite end of the RWY.I have AFCAD's installed from AVSIM or Flightsim for the default scenery. Nothing special there.Well at least ATIS is doing something right...Thanks again!!Ken

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Sorry to but in here but, saw your post and was interested. May I ask what program you are using for AI traffic?Wilbert

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I use WoAI traffic and custom installed AI and with ASA I see the OP's observation a lot. Also, weather at the destination airport is not always correct, or updated only AFTER arriving. Seems to be a simconnect issue. I often see different winds reported in the MD-11 / or the FSX red text, than on the ASA interface.

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Sorry to but in here but, saw your post and was interested. May I ask what program you are using for AI traffic?Wilbert
Wilbert,I use Traffic X by Just Flight.

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hi,to tell u in a simple manner, using ASA in DWC mode will result in this problem because global weather mode applies the weather at ur current location throughout all the weather stations. so when u listen to ur destination ATIS about 80 miles away it will tell u to use a certain runway, and due to this u might have already planned ur approach for tht runway. but by the time u get closer to ur destination the ATIS report will change again and u will be surprised to see tht another runway is being used, and AI planes will start taking off from the opposite side. this is one of the main reasons y i don't used DWC. its absolutely wrong logic. try flying with DWC off, u wont have this issue.regards,

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Hi,I will try that and hopefully it will work. I have a question though, look at my earlier post where I stated that ATC gave me one RWY to take off and the AI traffic is going to the opposite end. This happens when I first begin my flight. Is this still due to DWC being enabled in ASA?Thanks for the advice!!Ken

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hi,if this problem is happening at the departure airport then there is something wrong, no matter whether DWC is enabled or not. if use DWC and it happens at the destination airport then its understandable. just turn off DWC and let us know if it is happening.regards,

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Ok ,great news!!! (so far)I disabled DWC and flew from KRDU to KRIC. No problems, whatsoever!!We landed on RWY 16 and AI traffic was taking off from RWY 16. AI traffic was also using RWY 2 as well to take off and land. I will fly back to KRDU and see it the problem is fixed. I will keep my fingers crossed...Thanks for the help!!Ken

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