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From i7 920 up to 970?

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Hello!I have been using my i7 920@3,6 GHz for two years now and my FSX has run not too bad (GTX 470, 6 GB RAM). But on approaches and departures at Mega EDDF, LFPG or EGLL I only have down to 13 fps even without a 2D panel or 3D panel in view (homecockpit). Sliders are on the right sides (autogen and scenery dense, but not extremely dense) except water and ground traffic, UT 2 is in use (just 40% traffic). FSX.cfg is tweaked by Bojote's tool; ground textures unfortunately often are not sharp on 80% zoom factor - don't know why.Now I consider to upgrade to a 970 because price has fallen extremely and I want to stay with socket 1366 (no motherboard change and re-install necessary).Would such an upgrade make sense? The goal would be to run the 970 at 4 GHz stable.Thanks in advance for your advice,Christoph

I think the best thing you can do is hold on to that 920 and try to clock it up to or beyond 4GHz. Save your money for socket 2011 or whatever it is Intel is supposed to release at the end of this year. Perhaps in the mean time, pick up a really nice case and cooling system to better clock your 920 as that will serve you well when you upgrade your system in the future.Alternatively, if you aren't completely against upgrading to 1155, consider what you can sell your 1366 system for. That + the $600 you were orginally planning to spend = some pretty nice upgrades. For FSX, all you need is the 2500k.

Corey Meeks

FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W

Hello!I have been using my i7 920@3,6 GHz for two years now and my FSX has run not too bad (GTX 470, 6 GB RAM). But on approaches and departures at Mega EDDF, LFPG or EGLL I only have down to 13 fps even without a 2D panel or 3D panel in view (homecockpit). Sliders are on the right sides (autogen and scenery dense, but not extremely dense) except water and ground traffic, UT 2 is in use (just 40% traffic). FSX.cfg is tweaked by Bojote's tool; ground textures unfortunately often are not sharp on 80% zoom factor - don't know why.Now I consider to upgrade to a 970 because price has fallen extremely and I want to stay with socket 1366 (no motherboard change and re-install necessary).Would such an upgrade make sense? The goal would be to run the 970 at 4 GHz stable.Thanks in advance for your advice,Christoph
No. Best case scenario is you get about 10% performance boost. You will NOT get (wished?) 20-25fps, with a boost from 3,6 -> 4.0.Though, I don't understand why you are getting such low FPS.Can you tell some details about your approach, which aircraft, which addon? I have UK2000 Heathrow and PMDG/LDS aircraft... I can test for you, since I have 920, even with the slower card.I think the problem is you are pushing FSX too much. I think Dense is more or less OK, you could try Autogen Normal. Traffic surely eats most of your performance away.What resolutions are your clouds? What setting in Nvidia Inspector? 8xS? 8xSQ?Bojote's tool is OK, though not a miracle worker.To use it, you FIRST have to make everything work fine without the tweak, then tweak.And 970 is VERY expensive compared to 2500K and a new mainboard. Old(er) CPU... nah.
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Thanks for your replies.I am using FEX HD clouds (max. settings), and UTX Europe; no nvidia inspector; AA and AF selected in FSX - no changes in the driver.Aircraft is the JF A320, but without the panel in 2D-mode.The problem is the higher temperature (around 70°) when overclocking more than 3,6 GHz. Cooler is ok, it's the Prolimatech Megahelm.So if I would give higher voltage for higher clock (bluescreen otherwise) the temperature would increase to the high 70s.Because of this I was thinking about the 970 - it would be easy at 4 GHz with nice temperature - I suppose. With socket 1155 I could get stutters (many users reported about) and maybe not a stable system. Best regards,Christoph

Thanks for your replies.I am using FEX HD clouds (max. settings), and UTX Europe; no nvidia inspector; AA and AF selected in FSX - no changes in the driver.Aircraft is the JF A320, but without the panel in 2D-mode.The problem is the higher temperature (around 70°) when overclocking more than 3,6 GHz. Cooler is ok, it's the Prolimatech Megahelm.So if I would give higher voltage for higher clock (bluescreen otherwise) the temperature would increase to the high 70s.Because of this I was thinking about the 970 - it would be easy at 4 GHz with nice temperature - I suppose. With socket 1155 I could get stutters (many users reported about) and maybe not a stable system. Best regards,Christoph
Well, if you are ok with getting the same CPU just hoping for a better overclock, go for it. Can you please elaborate here?
With socket 1155 I could get stutters (many users reported about)
Who are those many users that reported stutters?
Thanks for your replies.I am using FEX HD clouds (max. settings), and UTX Europe; no nvidia inspector; AA and AF selected in FSX - no changes in the driver.Aircraft is the JF A320, but without the panel in 2D-mode.The problem is the higher temperature (around 70°) when overclocking more than 3,6 GHz. Cooler is ok, it's the Prolimatech Megahelm.So if I would give higher voltage for higher clock (bluescreen otherwise) the temperature would increase to the high 70s.Because of this I was thinking about the 970 - it would be easy at 4 GHz with nice temperature - I suppose. With socket 1155 I could get stutters (many users reported about) and maybe not a stable system. Best regards,Christoph
Could you post your BIOS settings for me here please? Only ones relevant to the overlock of course... CPU page (where you find C1E setting, and also the page with complete voltages and settings). Take pics, don't have to write it down...
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Here are my BIOS settings:Still don't know what would be best solution. Changing the whole setup could end in a stuttering FSX which may be not stable - changing only the CPU would beware me of these possible issues.Best regards,Christoph

Uhm, what mainboard is this? It doesn't seem to have real overclocking possibilities! I can tell you my Vcore is now set at 1.31 and its ticking at 4.2 without a much fuss, but I did have to boost QPI/DRAM Core Voltage to 1.3, which is by many overclocker sites a-OK.These pictures are older, but to give you an idea of what overclockers paradise looks like :)Now some settings are different, especially lowered VCore and QPI/DRAM, I think I also turned off C1E and HT...

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It's the AsRock X58 Extreme. I just have made the experience that the airport ground vehicles cost 5 fps on a airport as EDDF from aerosoft! That's really incredible.#What are your fps on this airport? Do you use unlimited frames?Christoph

Seems like your board is not what one would call an overclocker board.You don't need airport vehicle density, if you are using addon scenery - correct me if I'm wrong. I think that is only for default airports.And the FPS hit is for me way to big.Getting around 30-35fps in external of PMDG 747. No, frames limited to 40 for the purpose of this test.

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Do you also use UTX Europe and Ultimate Traffic 2 at this airport? Which framerate do you get in 2D view (80% zoom) without panel on runway 07L?Christoph

Do you also use UTX Europe and Ultimate Traffic 2 at this airport? Which framerate do you get in 2D view (80% zoom) without panel on runway 07L?Christoph
UTX yes, UT2 no. No traffic at all - I generally fly online only.PMDG747 2D view 80% (without panel is kinda stupid, pressed W twice to get full screen/no panel picture): around 55fps in full screen (not windowed).I consider my computer slow with FSX though...
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Thank you for your information, I consider upgrading to a 2500k now. Should work for the next 3 years FSX :smile: Best regards,Christoph

Thank you for your information, I consider upgrading to a 2500k now. Should work for the next 3 years FSX :smile: Best regards,Christoph
Good idea. ^_^

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