Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

alril40

Computer upgrade

Recommended Posts

Hi, I'm looking at upgrading my computer so it handles FSX with add-ons such as REX, addon aircraft, AI and addon airports as well as having a most of the sliders to the right without sacrificing the frames.I'm also upgrading so i can get the most out of the latest games on the market so i've done my research with that in mind as well.My system is currently:AMD Phenom 9650 Quad Core 2.30GHz4GB RAM (3.12GB usable)500GB Hard DriveNVIDIA GeForce GT 240FOXCONN A6VMX Mother BoardI'm looking at getting:AMD Phenom II X4 3.5 GHz ProcessorNVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GBI'm not sure on what kind of impact that will have on the frames and if its even possible with the current mother board, that's really why i'm posting here before i do anything!Advice would be greatly appreciated, ThanksAlexEDITI've not got too much money to play with so want to get the most out of what i can with the budget im on

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

Here's the compatibility list for your mobo:http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&socket=Socket%20AM2+/AM2&model=A6VMX&cputype=AMDYour options:2.5GHz Phenom II x4 8052.6GHz Phenom II x4 8102.6GHz Phenom II x4 910All three are basically the same CPU, so pick the cheapest you can findA comparison with your current Phenom 9650: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/85?vs=23 it's a 20-25% fasterAs for the GPU, what's your power supply?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi, Thanks for the reply,I'm willing to get a new motherboard as well as a new power supply. I'm not sure exactly what MB i will require for the AMD 970 and i think i will have to upgrade the power supply to 600W, all depending on what i have now. I'll have a look at what i currently have closer to when i'm getting all this done.With that in mind, what do you think the effect will be on frames with the AMD 970, and the GTX 460 installed?Thanks Alex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What's your budget? depending on what mobo you pick, you'll need new RAM too

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm honistly not sure, I havent opened the case to take a look, leaving all the installation to someone else.. I don't trust myself with all that!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ok, heheif you can take a look at the PSU sticker, please tell us what the amperage in the 12V rail(s) is. It should look like this:c1f5add08fc3e18.jpgWhat I need to know is the brand and model, and most important, the amperage in the +12V rail. In the pic it's 16A, although you might find yours has two or more rails, then post the amperage of all of them (+12V1, +12V2, etc...)this would be the card: http://www.overclock...X-128-GW&tool=3and one of these bundles:check this out: http://www.overclock...id=43&catid=339if you don't need a new PSU, you can pick a better bundle

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looking at the back theres no sticker there however there is a side sticker, its an Advent - PQD5002, Rating 230V ac, 4A 50-60htz. not sure if thats what your after.Thanks for that site, will come in handy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lol, Ok, thanks for the help, I'm getting somewhere now! I'm looking at this one for now, obviously will have to get the power supply as well as the graphics card ontop.I would imagine i would be well onto the road for smooth frames in FS and most modern games with that setup?!Thanks,Alex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That's a good option. Even though it's a dual core CPU, it will outperform any AMD system and the price is greatNevertheless, if you can stretch for this:OPTION 1:I5 2500........................£170Asus P8H67-M.............£75RAM 4GB 1333 CL8....£35Total: 280 quidOPTION 2:or even better if you consider overclocking down the road:I5 2500K......................£174Asus P8P67-M...........£110RAM 4GB 1600 CL8....£40Total: £324That's almost the fastest FSX system money can buy. Option 2 won't perform any better than option 1, but if you overclock that 2500K someday (option 1 will not allow any overclocking whatsoever), you can get an extra 30-35% performance for free (well, almost: with an el cheapo cooler like this one) Make sure the RAM is compatible (the option 1 RAM is for sure) before you buy anything. OcUK's customer service is second to none. Simply ask them and you'll be fine

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok, Thanks for the help, Its greatly appreciated.Hopefully i'll be emptying my pockets some time soon then! I'll get a chat going with the guys at OCuk. Thanks again for the helpAlex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi,Just a quick update on this one.I've decided to go for the Intel Core i5-2500K, however i've been told somewhere down the line that micro-ATX mother boards don't overclock well. Is this true? if so i'd be looking at going the full way with a PC new build so i can run a full size mother board as i really want that extra umph to run FSX and other games.Also, power supplies.. i've looked at quite a few and noticed that you can get a 600W PSU for around £20.. if i am going to go with the new build i'd want to save as much ££ on other components while going the full way with CPU, GPU and Mother Board.I've got this one in my sights at the moment.. will that be up to the job? it has 24A in the first 12v Rail... Thanks,Alex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That PSU is crap. Rated 600W yes, but with 24A in the 12V rail it won't deliver more than 300W and probably that's a peak value, not sustained. Don't skimp on the PSU. That doesn't mean you need to spend 100+ pounds on an overkill one.The Antec one is cheaper thereuATX boards can overclock just as ATX ones, the problem is that some uATX boards have no VRM (voltage regulation module) and those are not suitable for OC

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok. thanks for all the help and guidance.I've come to a pritty much final decision on the following and would like to know if this would run as a stable system.Intel core i5-2500k CPUAsus P8P67 full ATX MB(baring in mind i'm now going for a new build)EVGA GTX460 1GB SCAntec High Current Gamer 520W PSUI'm most concerned that that PSU will be up to the job for that lot plus hard drive, CPU fans etc.Thanks,Alex.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fans and HDD's draw very little power. That PSU has 40A in the 12V rail. That's some 480W of real, sustained power in the main rail. You can overclock your 2500K and still have headroom to upgrade your graphics card to an overclocked GTX570 or probably even a GTX580 if so you wanted. If you feel uneasy with "only" 520W in your PSU sticker, you can get something like a TX650What case are you going to get for your new build?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice. You're getting an awesome system in the end :biggrin:You'll need a 120mm fan or two for that case.What RAM? and are you getting a CPU cooler to overclock the 2500K?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

looks great. you'll love it! good luck with your build

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites