Many of you know of this link..... http://www.flyquietsfo.com/live/You could probably check it right now as it's up 24/7.If you don't know about it & your familiar with Bay Area traffic flow & general operations, then it's a must see.If anyone knows of any such site for the SOCAL or Phoenix area, please let me know....more specifically, any procedural ATC sites for SOCAL/NOCAL/PHX APP(DEP).I'm shooting for real life reference info (using real sectors, patterns & freqs) as opposed to any possible distortion of fact for the purposes of training soley.Cheers.

>If anyone knows of any such site for the SOCAL or Phoenix>area, please let me know....more specifically, any procedural>ATC sites for SOCAL/NOCAL/PHX APP(DEP).>Cheers.Try www.zabartcc.org We have most, if not all of the PHX TRACON (P50) sectors listed.Hope this helps :-)

Thanks...Just what I was looking for.....Do you have many guys in there operating the PHX class B airspace?Cheers.

We do and we don't. It is pretty hot and cold. If you are looking for ZLA traffic information, check out www.laartcc.orgZAB is a great place, but a bit slow.

The LA site is the bomb...ABQ & OAK don't even compare I'm afraid; but I would definately chose ABQ over OAK anyday.I'm really impressed by the vector diagrams & such & wish there were more of them. I will try the forum in there to push for more info on vector patterns and/or further diagrams (particularly east/west LAX depature vector ops, Ontario Departure & SNA arrivals).Thanks again for this info.Cheers,