Much has recently been posted and 'discussed' about PMDG's and Ariane's 737NG products, and most threads have developed into personal arguments about Tishma etc. As said before, comparisons between the two products are inevitable as Ariane themselves tried to totally discredit the PMDG version on their site before releasing their own and, as a direct result, shot themselves in the foot when their version got criticised by some who bought it as well as some who apparently didn't.In an earlier (locked) thread, Tom Allensworth stated that no postings by Ariane in support of their products would be blocked or deleted, but for obvious reasons, Tishma ('Bobbo' at al) has never come onto the forums to discuss anything, least of all his own products.So, in the hope of finally stopping these 'flaming' threads, here's a simple challenge.....1. Ariane, send a copy of the 737NG product to AVSIM.2. AVSIM, publish a full and unbiased review of it (without comparisons to PMDG as PMDG's 737 is already known to be excellent quality etc.)3. Ariane, come to the forum and speak for yourselves rather than asking 'supporters' to speak for you.4. Open your own support forum as you've promised for ages.THEN, I suggest, we'll get the only real chance to consider the Ariane product on NOTHING BUT IT'S OWN MERITS........Toni.

Hey Toni,First, boy oh boy, am I glad I've stayed out of this one, . and to answer some of your questions Toni . . . Oh, you already know the answers . . LOL... it's not going to happen and its wishful thinking on your part . . but I'll admit, it's about as fair as fair can be.Whew! I'm almost worn out just reading everyone else's post.Since both of us have been very good boys and stayed out of this mess aren't we proud of ourselves? Best to you ToniClay

Toni,Let me be succinct for everyone, including Martin:1.) AVSIM would happily set up and host a support forum for Ariane.2.) AVSIM would objectively review their product were they to send us a copy.3.) We are not going to hold our breath on either offer.