I have recently reinstalled all of my favorite add ons. I am trying to get NAV 3.1 to work with traffic.With FS2002 I ran Nav 3.1 over the network. I was able to see he FS2002 AI traffic on the second monitor which was awesome. I used to sit on the apron and plane spot using Ulitmate Traffic and watching the planes line up the string of pearls at major airports. Will Nav 3.1 work with FS2004 tracffic?I have it working over the network, I can see myself as the Network track, and if I am running WideFS, I can see myself as the local track.I have FSMeteo 6.4 working over the net as well. I think my network set up is right (I can see myslf on the NAV 3.1 chart) To make sure I ran 3.1 local on the FS2004 machine, and I could see myself with no traffic.Has anyone tried connecting NAV3.1?It was nice to see the traffic over the chart.Dennis Mitchell

Send me an email at [email protected] .W. Sieffert

Dennis, I used top use NAV 3 with fs2002.Where did you get NAV 3.1, and how did you get it to work with FS2004, Very interested, Bob

I got NAV 3.1 from the Ted Wright's web site.http://nav.consequential.org/The link to the 3.1 (beta) ishttp://users.adelphia.net/~fruitbat/Nav31beta.zipTed is taking a break from flight simming, and it looks like 3.1 will not be completed anytime soon (as far as a final release.) 3.1 Betat does have some coding improvements in it. (more stable)As far as running NAV 3.1 with FS2004, there are some quirks when you run it on the same machine as flight sim (FS9). Like, some of the features do not display when you press the filter on button. I think this has to do with the display, or memory. I am not sure if this is just my machine, or in general. BUT when you run it on a second machine, over a network, it works fine.You can run it on a second machine, enable network connectivity, and run a copy of it on the FS machine, in the background. It doesn't matter what the FS9 machine copy looks like, because you are only using it for a conduit for the network. Second option is to only run NAV on the second machine, and let it connect to FS local memory via WideFS. I prefer this method to prevent running support software on my FS9 Box. (I run all my support software on the second machine using WideFS (registered) ).You have to import a copy of the database made from FS2002. The format of the scenery files are different. So the navdata will be a little out of date. Believe it or not, some simmers don't care about this as long as their plates and charts match what is in the FS data base. I still have FS2002 charts and plates. It does cause some problems when flying newer updated aircraft like PMDG 737NG. But when flying a 727, it works fine.I like using NAV even if the data is a little out of date, just to see a moving map display on a second machine. I do not use this when practiciing IFR flight, it is kind of like cheating.In FS2002, seeing the Nav data, the flight route, my plane moving and the traffic, was kind of like seeing what the air traffic controller sees, except with more flight plan data. This was interesting to see where traffic patterns of certain approaches actually passed over the geo features and helped me figure out where all of the KORF traffic was flying when I saw it over head.Since then, I have moved up to Jeppensen FlightMap IFR (full blown version). This was very expensive but I use it for real world flying as well. I use Pete Dawson's GPSout.dll to send NMEA 183 messages out of the serial port of the FS machine and into the serial port of the mapping machine. Moving map with real charts and weather. I download the real weather from DUATs from within FliteMap and display the NEXRAD image on the chart. I use FSMETEO 6.4 to grab the weather and control FS9 via WideFS. Close enough for fight simming. Usually it is a pretty good match. The reason I am trying to get NAV working again, is I like to see the traffic over the chart. I have to admit, that while not truely realistic, I like to plane spot in FS9 with Ultimate Traffic. I use Palm Spotter and I would like to see the traffic on the chart. If anyone knows a good moving map application that will display the flight plan and the traffic from FS2004, let me know. (I recently got back from a trip where I went plane spotting at Frankfurt Main, Hamburg, and finally Heathrow. It was a blast.)Thanks to Pete Dawson for all of his outstanding tools.Thanks to Ted Wright for his contribution to Flight simming. sorry for the long post,Dennis Mtichell

Thanks for the quick and detailed reply. You said "You have to import a copy of the database made from FS2002". Thats the problem I was having trying to use it with FS2004. Can I get that database from one of the FS2002 CDs or do I have to install the whole FS2002. Thanks again, Bob

Thanks Bill Sieffert!He's da man.Seems I had an incomplete, or out of date version of the Beta. It works great on the second machine via WideFS, with traffic. I owe you one.Dennis