Here's a challenge. Use a small GA aircraft, I used Flight1's A36. Fly on a line from OR05 (Flying M Ranch in Yamhill, Oregon) to Ranger Creek in Greenwater, WA, that's 21W. Both are Georender products. Guess what you encounter........ the east ridge of Mr.Ranier. You have to get to 12000 to clear the east ridge of Mt.Ranier, then... Ranger Creek is barely 12 miles north in a Valley. I choose to do a 360 after clearing the ridge and loose altitude, the A36 just flys a bit too strong to loose enough speed at the end to set it down. Anyway, I chickened out of diving into the valley without the 360, but I may try it with my Piper Archer. Will an Archer get up to 12000?Anyway, what made this trip superawesome was using Megascenery for PNW. Gorgeous!! My PCI Express 5200 GEForce card burned out the other day, so I sprung for a new GeForce 7800.... SUPER Card, it nearly makes Megascenery as fast as Ultimate Terrain!Pentium 3.4 I GiG Ram on a 925X Intel Chipset MoboRandy Jura, KPDX

Randy:Just tried this flight and OH MY GOD. :)Beautiful scenery enroute indeed. Very difficult approach as you stated. Thanks for the tips, but I STILL crashed on landing. 1st time in months.:(RegardsTim