Mystery in the woods.. aircraft recognition at its best...

[Guest Javis]

On my search for info about the Lockheed T2V-1 Seastar i stumbled over this intriguing story :http://www.itsnewjersey.com/lostinjersey/vehicle/jet.htmlWhat do *you* think these sad remains belong to ??Personally i can't believe that the last email poster deffinately believes it's a T-33 rather then a T2V-1 ( the F-101,F-80 and F-89 suggestions don't hold any water of course ) because the windshield frame and air intakes already give away that it's a T2V-1 and not a T-33. The latter used the more typical windshield framing where the T2V-1 had the mid frames removed to improve forward visibillity.Not to speak of the typical T-33/F-80 air intakes of which there's no prove at all in the photo's of the wreck.I'd love to have my view added to those on the site but i don't know how.... (-: Just thought it's an interesting site for aircraft recognition buffs of which i like to think i can pass as a dedicated amateur.So what do *you* guys think ?cheers,Jan

[Guest]

Seeing as it is a two seater that should exclude the Shooting star which was a single seaterThe low wing would seem to exclude the F-89, the shape of the intakes the F-101.Remains only the T-33 and T-2V-1 as a likely candidate.The position of the canopy rather low on the fuselage most likely excludes the T-2V-1 (http://www.1000aircraftphotos.com/APS/1966L.jpg and http://pages.potpantiques.com/9/PictPage/1921696464.html) (not T-1 as some people posted!).The far larger production run and the location of the wreck far from USN training bases makes the case for it being a T-33 even stronger.And if that's not enough the T-2V had enlarged air intakes, which this wreck seems to lack.

[Guest Javis]

Thanks for your response,Jeroen.>The position of the canopy rather low on the fuselage most>likely excludes the T-2V-1Not sure what you mean by that...>The far larger production run and the location of the wreck>far from USN training bases makes the case for it being a T-33>even stronger.Could be but i,for one, have to see a first evidence of a T-33 windshield frame like that. That's one of the most recognisable items in the wreckage pictures. A T2V does have an exact windshield frame like that. Btw, T2V's were also used by the Marines.>And if that's not enough the T-2V had enlarged air intakes,>which this wreck seems to lack.It has different shaped air intakes, not so much enlarged if you ask me. I would even say those of the T-33 are bigger :http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/110335.jpgHere's the T2V luchthapper :http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/110336.jpgNotice the square black area atop the air intake.Isn't that pretty recognisable in the wreckage pictures too ? Jan