January 20Jan 20 Using X-Plane 12.3.3 and AIRAC 2513 with 0.2.7A PIlotATC FMS plan generated from Simbrief is: I 1100 Version CYCLE 2513 ADEP KMFR DEPRWY RW14 SID JKSN1 ADES KSEA DESRWY RW16R STAR HAWKZ8 STARTRANS BTG NUMENR 6 1 KMFR ADEP 1335.000000 42.374964 -122.873289 3 OED DRCT 17000.000000 42.479575 -122.912933 11 CUTTR V595 17000.000000 42.689275 -122.728519 11 RENAA DRCT 33000.000000 43.441561 -122.411128 3 BTG DRCT 34000.000000 45.747811 -122.591536 1 KSEA ADES 2900.000000 47.449889 -122.311778 Actual Kawkz approach: https://www.1800wxbrief.com/Website/aip/tpp/00582HAWKZ.pdf https://www.1800wxbrief.com/Website/aip/tpp/00582HAWKZ_C.pdf Actual target altitude assignments on import of the .fms file: R14: 1335 alt 1800:2100 int: 4000 OED: 7200 CUTTR: 17999 (show alt restrictions between 10500-17999; in reality it is MEA 10500 northbound, but the limit of 17999 appears to be because it is a waypoint on IFR low charts; IMO there should be no upper restriction here; note LNM also shows this restriction.)(?) RENAA: FL 340 BTG: FL 340 PTERA: FL340 TOD: FL 340 KRIEG: 6000 (MEA is 10000) HAWKZ: 6000 (crossing restriction is A12000) LIINE: 6000 PIKEZ: 15000 (A12000/B15000) COFAY: 6000 BREVE: 11000 (A10000/B11000) NETTZ: 6000 (A8000) KWEST: 6000 (A7000) VASHN: 6000 (6000 hard) KSEA: 432 The database seems to have the crossing altitude restrictions right, but P2ATC seems to only respect the Below constraints (if started out above, it will go to at least the below constraint). If there is no constraint, it seems to pick the hard altitude at the end of the arrival. (In reality wouldn't the restriction on COFAY be A(min(prev.waypt,next.waypt))/B(max(prev.waypt,next.waypt)) ? Above constraints aren't respected at all, and it doesn't seem to interpolate the target altitude for a straight line distance between the two waypoints which is what I would expect. I can't seem to override the target altitudes. When I do, it just goes and lighlights the "alt" line above. How can I fix P2ATC to get a better descent profile? Edited January 20Jan 20 by DrSoftware typos
January 21Jan 21 Author Another example: On BRIXX4 arrival to KSJC between CORKK and BRIXX. BRIXX has a hard altitude of 12,000 ft and a hard speed of 250K. Yet, ATC says "maintain 17000 feet" (needless to say I was already well on my way down to 12,000)
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