Peter,I appreciate the response, but I'm not looking to become part of a group effort to make the "perfect" aircraft that will satisfy everyone. I don't have the time, and frankly, I don't have the desire. I was just trying to point out to folks that there may be any number of reasons why someone would make an aircraft without a VC. As you said, making a good VC is a daunting task without direct access to the aircraft, or the close cooperation of someone who does. That's not to say that I wouldn't consider taking a shot at a VC if I thought I had adequate information, but I don't feel compelled to spend a lot of time pursuing it. Especially when I could spend that same time working on other aircraft.Regards,Mike Stone

Mike, this is slightly irrelevant to the topic, but this should help you with the Caribou:http://collections.ic.gc.ca/canadair/images/dhc_4/tech.htm___________________________________________________EricUPDATED: List of all airlines, aircraft manufacturers and aircraft types recognised by ATC:http://www.geocities.com/eric_2203/orhttp://ftp.avsim.com/library/esearch.php?D...atID=fs2002misc