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Some of you may remember the difficulties I was having trying to upgrade to a GEForce card from my current TNT2Ultra video card. I had tried three different brands of GEForce cards, and my computer absolutely refused all three of them..... it wouldn't even boot up.Well, I took the darn thing (the computer) into the computer shop the other day. I was told the majority of my computer difficulties stemmed from my McAfee anti-virus software, which they deleted. My machine was scan disked/defragged and checked out. Apparently I should be able to change video cards now, so I went out to buy one.I found a VisionTek geforce2 Ti card w/64mg DDR memory for 100 bucks that I'll try to install this evening. I'm hoping a 64 mg card will smooth out Fly!2's performance around 3rd party airports such as Renton (currently I can't even fly around that scenery) even with my PIII 700 computer. Wish me luck.-Lindy :-wave

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Goodluck and belive me you won't be disapointed if it works. I have the same card and I get 25FPS and up running at 1024x768, 32bits, 2xFSAA, terrascenery, and all sliders at max. Compare that to my old Geforce 2MX 16MB ;)Umm whats AGP Texturing?Goodluck Again,pluto1168(kelvin)

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Okay, gang....I've got the new card. Instructions say: 1. remove old card. 2. install new card. 3. Start computer and at Desktop, click My Computer.Well, my computer DOES at least boot up (which is a big improvement over the other cards I've attempted to install) but the "desktop" is nothing but a black&white version with NO icons or taskbar. Windows identifies my new card and asks for the disk to be inserted in the drive. I put the CD in my Drive:E, locate and click on the Win98 folder. But Windows CAN'T FIND THE FRIGGING DRIVER!!!!There are NO options to do anything else. I'm stumped.I came here to my work computer to d/l the most recent drivers from nVidia onto a floppy, intending to try to install from the floppy instead of the CD. The drivers appeared to d/l just fine, but they didn't show up on the floppy! That has NEVER happened before. (I sure hope the darn things didn't try to install themselves on this work computer 'cause I don't have an nVidia card on this machine.)I guess I'm due for another trip to the computer store.-Lindy

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Hey Lindy.. Not again!!! You might want to change to a standard vga adapter first. You can do this on boot up when windows ask you to install the drivers. Select "display drivers in a location", then show all hardware. Scroll up to standard display adapters and do the rest with ok or apply....., even though windows says it is not compatable. Reboot your computer, and you will be in 16 colors only. Now go to the windows 98 folder on the cd to find the .exe file and run it. I'm guessing that file is an .exe, and the file you downloaded is also...that's why windows could not find them qat boot up...cause it was looking for an .inf driver file. Good luck. Nice to "see" you.

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I don't think the drivers would fit in a floppy. Since Nvidia drivers are more than 8MB in size. What you can do is when you see the dialouge box saying hardware detected click cancel. Windows will boot up to desktop (will look really ugly) open your driver cd and click the approriate folder and driver file for windows (9x, 2000/XP, NT).Hope this helps,Pluto1168(kelvin)

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LindyIs there a menu bar at the top? Just making sure you're in Windows.If you can ignore the dialog,.Open MyComputer program group.Select Control Panel (icon?).Select Display icon-SelectSettings page-Select either Advanced Properties or Change Display Type (W98 select Adapter Page first).On Select Device page-Select Have Disk-W98: Display a list of all drivers in a specific location.Click Next button.Find driver disk -if the above works you should be able to find your disk(fingers crossed)I have no idea if you'll be able to follow the above (logically or physically) so good luck :-)Ben

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Actually I use an LS 120mg floppy, so yes, they will fit. When I went to My Computer and clicked on my LS drive, the downloaded file was not there....poof -- just disappeared. Yet there was no indication that the download failed. Now when I boot up with the new card installed and the dialogue box comes up, there IS NO option to cancel. Just "OK" The procedure you describe is what I'm familiar with, but there's no way to get to it from what is showing on my monitor. That is what is so puzzling. But thanks for making the suggestion. I have changed video cards before (as well as drivers) so I know what is SUPPOSED to happen. It's just not happening the way it's supposed to. Darn.-Lindy ************>I don't think the drivers would fit in a floppy. Since >Nvidia drivers are more than 8MB in size. What you can do is >when you see the dialouge box saying hardware detected click >cancel. Windows will boot up to desktop (will look really >ugly) open your driver cd and click the approriate folder >and driver file for windows (9x, 2000/XP, NT). >>Hope this helps, >Pluto1168(kelvin)

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Thanks for the suggestion, Ben. But there are no icons, no taskbar -- nothing but the dialogue box that tells me to insert the disk. Yes, I AM in Windows, just two colors. The CD in the drive is located, but the file Windows keeps asking for is not found.There is no option to bypass the dialogue box by any fashion. I have changed video cards before and have never run into this problem in the past.But I WILL persevere. Since the computer does boot up with the new card, I'm sure I'll eventually figure out what the problem is.-Lindy

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... :-wave Yes, AGAIN!! :-lol I'll admit I did not change to standard VGA before removing my old card and installing the new one. I hoped that since I already have the updated drivers that I want to use with the new card already installed and working, the new card would simply detect them and be ready to go. So much for thinking!! :-rollI'll figure this out.......I can be VERY stubborn. Besides I'm quite encouraged by the fact my computer actually starts up with the new card installed... even if I can't get the drivers installed yet. -Lindy

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Since the driver is a .EXE executable (will install automatically) you should try to install the driver first from the driver CD using your old videocard(since its the only one that works currently on your system). It will ask you to reboot but don't shut down computer then install the new card. Boot up now it will detect the driver since its already installed on your system.again hope this helps,Pluto1168(kelvin)

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Lindy I have a question abit off topic but did your visiontek card Geforce 2Ti come with ram sinks?thanks,Pluto1168(kelvin)

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Sorry......what's a "ram sink"? There is no mention of "ram sink" on the box anyplace.Also, in reference to your previous post -- the drivers I WANT to use are the most recently released from nVidia (29.42 or 29.24... something like that). These drivers ARE already installed -- I'm using them with my current video card. I figured the new card would find the drivers and use them. That's what I get for thinking. :-roll -Lindy

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...... now there is no video showing!!!I made one last try this evening. When the computer asked for the disk, I pointed it to my Windows System folder since that is the location of the 29.42 (or whatever) drivers I wanted to use anyway. If the program couldn't find the file it wanted, I told it to "skip file." Eventually I got the window message that the drivers were installed. I then restarted the computer and held my breath. (I had just used the same technique to reinstall those nVidia drivers to my TNT card which is why I figured it would work with the GEForce card.) It booted up.....ran through the POST....I got the Windows splash screen and then..... nothing. Just a big, fat, black, blank monitor. I could hear programs loading up but I can't see a thing!I don't think I'm destined to have a new video card.... doggone it!-Lindy

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Sorry to hear. Skipping files is usually no good. Splash screen is still pre windows/dos. Drivers not loaded properly I guess. Hope you get it sorted out.Best of luck...and as always..........

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Hi Lindy,Maybe we can get your card working correctly. What probably happened is when you "skipped files" some were not properly loaded and written to the registry. See if you can boot in "safe mode" and if you can, right click on the desktop and click on properties. Click on "settings" and click on "advanced". Then click on "adapter" and then "change". When the next window opens, put a dot in "specify the location of the driver(advanced) and then click on "next". When the next window opens , put a dot in " "display a list of drivers in a specific location etc and then click next. In the next window hilite "display drivers" and click next. The next window that opens on the left under "manu." , (standard display types) will be hilited and on the right "standard display adapter (vga) will be hilited. Click next again, a warning message will appear, just click "yes" and another window will open. Just click next again, Then click "finish".Let the computer reboot and now you have to redownload the drivers and install them.This should work, I don't see why not.Good luck,Ed

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Do you know what heatsinks are? If you know what they are they are just heatsinks attached to the memory chips in the videocard. Just asking becouse mine didn't come with one as it shown on the visiotek website.

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Lindy, First thing you want to do is put the "OLD" card back in and let windows redectect the old card.It will proboly just find the old drivers but if not go ahead and use the drivers that game with the "OLD" card.Once this is done reboot.You should have a normal desktop again. Now do the following . first got www.nvidia.com and download the 29.42 drivers.the 29.42 are out but the refresh rate is broken again at least for win2k but maybe not for win9x so we will try 29.42 anyways :) now do the following after downloading those drivers 1. Click on "my computer" 2. Click on "control panel" 3. Click on "Add and Remove Programs " 4. Find Nvidia display drivers, removes those drivers ( it maybe say riva tnt ultra and not nvidia ) 5. when it asks to reboot say NO 6. click start (on the task bar) the run , type regedit you should now have the windows registery editor 7. Click on HKEY_CURRENT_USER you will get a drop down list of folders find and click software.you will get another drop down list of all software installed and in some cases left over folders from previous uninstalls.You now should see Nvidia Corp or may Riva TNT.Remove that folder.Now do the same for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (click on software.. delete nvidia corp) 8. close the register editor and shutdown 9. removes the old tnt card and put the new geforce in 10 turn on the computer and windows should detect the geforce card and ask you where the drivers are. "click CANCEL" 11. click on the 29.42.exe and install the new nvidia drivers.Windows may or may not show a detection of the new card.Also your screen my flash a few time and go black.This normal when tring to dectect your monitor . 12 when it ask to reboot do so and everything should work now.If it does not it may be time to give the computers and nice reformat and reinstall just to get old junk files out and have a nice clean new registery.This is not a bad thing I do it all the time so win2k.It's just like getting a major tune up with car only a computer :) 13 the last thing to try is to reboot push F8 before you see the windows startup screen and boot in to safe mode.Then do this 1.click on my computer,control panel ,SYSTEM 2.click display and if you have more than one display adpater showing remove it .If it just says Geforce 2 thats ok. 3. click monitor and look for multiple entries and remove all but the first and reboot . 4. in most cases that does the trick If none of that fails I would suggest if anything a reinstall of windows.That will indeed cure any problems since you will have refresh registery but you will have to reinstall your programs possibly .Personally I would just FDISK ,repartion and reformat if it came down to it because my performance would increase so much :) good luck,I hope this helps you get on the right track Richard Dillon KATLSr First Officer www.jetstarairlines.com"Bill Grabowski's"ERJ-145 panel Beta TeamMD-11 panel Beta Team____________________________"Lets Roll" 9/11 Specs AMD 1600 XP 512MB DDR GF3 ti 200 64MB SBliveCh Products Yoke and Pedals(usb)Windows 2000 SP2

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...... of why I'm having such trouble with GEForce cards. The cards require a 2.0 AGP slot. Apparently MY AGP slot is only 1.0. Two computer shops have attempted to help me upgrade my video card over the last few months and neither one of them so much as made a peep to me about the AGP slot... DOH! I myself thought the AGP must be at least 2x compliant since an early GEForce card DID run at one time......I couldn't change drivers, but the card did work. But I finally decided to bite the bullet and bought a new MB with a 4x compliant AGP slot! Let's hope I'm not killing a fly with a bulldozer... :-eekAnyway, thanks to all of you who tried to helpe me out with the video card troubles. The new MB should clear things up -- I hope.-Lindy :-spacecraft

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The GEForce2 Ti card specs say it needs an AGP 2.0 compliant slot. The AGP slot on my MB is only 1.0 compliant (according to the MB manual). I've tried FOUR types of GEForce cards that would not install and/or run. The bottom line is SOMETHING was fishy. So if the card wants a 2.0 compliant AGP slot, then it will GET a 2.0 compliant AGP slot. -Lindy :-wave

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Lindy,I have my ELSA Geforce2 GTS running on my SS7 board which has an AGP1.0 slot, even though the GTS specs say it needs a 2.0 slot. It could be a cause of your problems as some cards may be happy on some AGP 1.0 slots, but others may not...Since you got yourself a new mobo (which is by no means a bad thing) I assume you will be re-installing the OS of your choice. This in itself may have cured your problems on your other (older) motherboard.Good luck...:-wave :-beerchugChris Ehttp://website.lineone.net/~flightsimukAvoid AGP texturing = Better Performance ;)

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I hope it works out for you Lindy. I'm going to a 2,100+ Amd . 2700 ddr RAM abit kx7 tomorrow.

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I just hope it will have all been worth it and the new 64 mg card smooths out my Fly!2 performance. I'm not a big FR counter so I don't care if the FRs are low, but the jerky, slide show of some of the 3rd party sceneries has GOT to go. This will probably turn out to be the most expensive video "card" I've ever gotten (and let's hope the new MB doesn't give me any NEW troubles!!!) :-erksTo all the Dads out there ---- HAPPY FATHER'S DAY :-jumpy :-yellow1-Lindy

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