will they ever stop?Answer: Ya right.:-lolOk then, here is mine. I will probably get my knuckles rapped for this as it has more then likly been addressed before. Sorry, I'm a compulsive idiot at times.Will RC ver.3 recognize Sids and Stars in FSNavigator?http://www3.telus.net/dport1/dansig.jpg

Yes, but there are some rules you need to follow.If you have waypoints within 30 miles of the airport, v3 still automatically assumes you have a DP and you must hit all the waypoints without vectoring.But for more flexibility, you should have one common waypoint for all the DP's and then will need to check "Flex DP" for departure. That allows you to fly wherever you want for the first 30 miles - therefore you can have multiple DP's for one plan. Make the plan you use for RC with that one waypoint, load that into RC, then add the others to fly it.You will have to request IAP for approach to fly a STAR. Then RC assumes you know what you are doing and will not vector you upon entering the Approach airspace. You will still have to abide by altitude assignments however.

Dan,In addition to the info Scott provided I think it's also important to note that when flying a published arrival procedure (STAR) you may or may not cross all the fixes on your chart before being vectored for sequencing for the active runway.In my opinion all versions of Radar Contact have handled this quite well. Once you are close enough for the approach controller to start giving you vectors that's when you may put away your STAR plate. The STAR did it's job as advertised by guiding you into the terminal area. Depending on the traffic demand at your chosen arrival airport you may get vectored sooner rather than later. This is perfectly normal and perfectly realistic. You might be surprised at how often aircraft are vectored around, rerouted, swapped from one departure or arrival "gate" (DP/STAR) to another etc, to accomodate traffic flow. While controllers are bound by set rules and regulations for traffic separation, phraseology, etc, the system as a whole is not a static entity. Something as "simple" as an ILS system suddenly becoming inoperative at an airport such as Newark New Jersey in low IFR conditions can render them essentially a single runway airport. When something like this happens, entire blocks of airspace have to immediately be adjusted to accomodate the miles in trail separation required for a single stream flow. This can affect sequencing as far back as Kansas City Center airspace!! For what my opinion is worth you simply won't find another air traffic control package for flight simulator that comes anywher NEAR the realism radar contact offers right now in version 2.x and the upcoming version 3. Michael Collierhttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/RCbeta.jpg