November 26, 200223 yr Hi,I'm very interested in radar contact V3 but have several questions before purchase. I just want to add that I read the entire 180+ pages of the manual ;)- I'm using Project AI for trafic and i'm very pleased by this product which bring a very good atmosphere to FS2002 but I think RC3 is not capable of making project ai ATC alive, is that right ? because I don't want to use FSATC at all ...In other terms, if I want to keep my project ai sound environment, do I have to keep using FSATC ?- Is it fully compatible with PIC767 ?- What are the differencies between FSATC and RC3 in trafic managment ?- A trial downloadable version would be very cool, it's not a cheap program ;)Best regards,Guillaume
November 26, 200223 yr Hi Guillaume,1. I'm using lots of project ai stuff as well and you can continue to monitor all the FSATC chatter while running RC.You can also request taxi/takeoff/landing/taxi to parking clearance from FSatc while running RC (you must be a vfr flight as far as FSATC is concerned).On departure/centre/approach you can only monitor FSATC, you cannot communicate with the controller - but you don't want to because RC does departure/centre approach much better anyway :-)2. RC is compatible with PIC767 but our co-pilot cannot fly the plane. I often use the Dreamfleet 737 and have the same situation but don't find it a problem. The FMC handles Lnav but you have to set the altitudes as directed by atc.3. Traffic Management. If you mean ai traffic management then RC doesn't manage the ai at all. RC monitors ai when in the air and gives trffic calls if the ai plane is getting too close.If you mean how does it differ in the way it deals with your plane I think there is a big list of features comparing RC and FSATC near the front of the manual. Check that out and come back if you have questions about a specific RC feature.4. Trial version would be nice, I agree. We used to manage it up to version 2.2 when we were basically just producing adventures so we could give people sample adventures. RC is now much more sophisticated and much bigger.I honestly think the price is very reasonable for what you get.All the best,Johnhttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/RCbeta.jpg
November 26, 200223 yr Thanks a lot for your quick responses :)Here is a more precise question : Now that I know I have to keep FSATC just to have AI trafic communications, isn't it a bit difficult to handle both ? as RC seems to be a lot more complex (in the good way of course ;) )Another question : during taxi, does RC takes care of other aircraft g
November 26, 200223 yr Hi Guillaume,It takes a bit of getting used to but, with a little practice, it becomes very easy to do and you end up with the best of both worlds.Our RC autopilot will helpfully tune the frequencies for the RC controllers and take care of most of the communications which reduces the workload considerably while you are learning the program :-)It is complex but it really doesn't take long to get quite familiar with it.All the best,Johnhttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/RCbeta.jpg
November 26, 200223 yr Thanks a lot, everything becomes clear now ;)One last question : this is a CD version only or is there a downloadable version available for purchase ?Best regards,Guillaume
November 26, 200223 yr Hi Guillaume,cd only. The program got too big for a download version to be a realistic option.All the best,Johnhttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/RCbeta.jpg
November 26, 200223 yr Ok thanks, I think I have all the needed informations for purchasing now ;)Best regards,Guillaume
November 26, 200223 yr Hi Guilluame,In addition to the questions that John answered for you, there was an additional question about the PIC767. I did my testing with the PIC767 with total compatibility with RCv3. On the question about FS ATC, reading the manual you will notice that you only have add a comm 2 capability to the PIC767 radio stack. Having done that you only have to have RC keep your comm freq's and monitor FSATC with their keystrokes, works very well.If you have further questions regarding using RCv3 with PIC767 just give us a post.CheersBob Johnson
November 27, 200223 yr Ok thank you guys for yours answers, I wanted to order since yesterday evening (european time) but saw that it is not possible before 08/12/02, arf :-bang ;)Best regards,Guillaume
November 27, 200223 yr "Now that I know I have to keep FSATC just to have AI trafic communications,"Actually you don't have to keep FSATC just to have AI Traffc communications.If all you want is AI Traffic but no FSATC chatter/communications at all, you need to enable AI Traffic from the Menus but put the sound volume slider for ATC, again in the Menus, to full left. This way, you will see the traffic but not hear their chatter/communications.If you want to also listen to the chatter of the AI Traffic but you don't want to have anything to do with FSATC yourself, that can be done too:Use COM2 for FSATC and chatter, enable AI Traffic, do not shut off ATC sound volume, pretend you are a VFR flight, and after taking off switch your COM2 to departure frequency as advised, but do not make contact with the controller. From then on, keep changing your COM2 frequency to the appropriate Centers as your flight progresses, always not making contact with each new controller, and you will be constantly in touch with AI Traffic chatter while FSATC itself will leave you alone!You can always check the current ATC frequency for the sector you're flying in by simply opening the ATC window (the ~ button)RegardsStamatis
November 27, 200223 yr That confirms what I though on this subject as this is exactly what I understood reading the manual, thanks ;)
November 27, 200223 yr Let me see if I get this right: If you file a VFR flight plan with FS, while running RC, you can get taxi instructions to the active runway from FS Ground as usual? So the FS menus will appear as well as the RC window? We then use Comm 2 to request the taxi from FS? I assume RC will still be set at ground, so it is advisable to request taxi from BOTH RC and FS prior to taxi, so when you get to the runway, we won't have to contact RC ground, right? You can then just proceed under RC.Won't FS start telling us to "contact departure" after we leave, or "You are leaving my airspace, frequency change approved", or should we just change the freq on comm2 to ignore them? OR, I can't remember, if you file vfr, you have to contact departure on you own without a cue from FSATC? I guess, I'm just not clear on how you can run both ATC progs at the same time without conflict. I'm GLAD to hear that we will be able to use FSATC for taxi instructions, just not really clear on how it will work...I figured once you started FSATC, they would try to continue to talk to you. Confused *:-* and likely confusing!Thanks, Adam
November 27, 200223 yr Hi Adam,You really need to get the program and try it out - less confusing than trying to imagine how it happens.One important point is that you do not file a flight plan with FSATC.You can try this without RC.Don't file a plan.When you are at your departure airport press ' and you get all the available FSATC options. You can interact with FSatc without filing a plan. Get used to how this works and then, when RC3 arrives, it will be easier for you to get the two working together.All the best,Johnhttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/RCbeta.jpg
November 27, 200223 yr That's what I wanted to do this evening with PIC and COM2 ...Let's get prepared for RC3 ;)Best regards,Guillaume
November 27, 200223 yr Guillaume trust me when I say no trail download is really necessary.This is a very good product and is very much like real world ATC within the limits of FS2002.You can fly SID and Stars perfectly.Which is something you can not do with FS2002 ATC.You get the proper runway for take offs and landings based on wind direction.Yes it is a expensive program but after JD explained to us exactly what he went through to make this at our dinner I went home right away and purchased RC3 and have not been disappointed at all.The only thing I think I would like to see is a RC flight planner with it's own AIRAC-Cycle so we do not have to import our flight plans.I have had some odd problems with getting flight planner to import properly from FSbuild and sometimes FSNAV.I think this would leave open alot of room for some very cool things like the ability for RC ATC to clear use through the assigned procedures of sid and stars or change our flight plan because of weather etc.. .That would be the next step to me although proboly to much work :) Capt.Richard Dillon (KATL)www.jetstarairlines.comhttp://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpghttp://jdtllc.com/images/RCsupporter.jpg"Lets Roll" 9/11 -----------------------Specs AMD 1600 XP MSI KT 266t pro2 512MB DDR 2100GF3 ti 200 64MB SBliveCh Products Yoke and Pedals(usb)Windows 2000 Serivce Pack 3
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