Steve Cannell

My 4k Samsung TV's, 55" and 78" look absolutely amazing.

My ASUS 27" 4k is nice but picture quality doesn't compare.

I would have had to go with a more expensive IPS monitor to get the colors I do from the Samsung tv's. I couldn't find an IPS monitor locally with a VESA mount.

4K makes gaming and flightsimming not only possible but look great on a 78". I think that alone says alot.  :-)

Ouch, that's kinda high for 4K ... I was just in BestBuy the other day and they had stacks of very nice Sony 4K 30/60Hz - 75" on sale for $3200. Also found a selection of 4K movies (i.e. Deadpool and more) ... also found cheaper LG 27" 4K 60Hz for $499. Seems 4K is in full swing for mass market ... I would imagine come holiday season 4K's will be even less. Heck even Netflix has some good titles in 4K (Jessica Jones, House of Cards, Blacklist...)

 

Cheers, Rob.

I see today it's on sale for $9,999. CAN . Still crazy.

There are many good deals on 50" + 4k tv's out there and more and more content coming all time from Netflix, youtube and gaming titles.

Thanks Rob for your uploads in 4k !!

Cheers

This is crazy too !! Samsung 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player $599.

Just from my own personal experience, Bigger is much, much better !!  

I have three 4k's to choose from, a 28",55" and 78" curved. 

I definitely love the Samsung 78" curved, especially for simming. Amazing color, performance and immersion. We got a great deal and us it for everything living room.

However the price is absurd,  $13,000 CAN.  

A 55" to 65" 4k (curved a bonus) I think gives an exceptional gaming experience at a reasonable price.

I've tried 3 monitor setups and think they're horrible. Even when large enough to install vertically.

Ultra wide screens are not much better.

Cheers

Been at this flight simming a very long time, now I can add Star Citizen to the mix.

VR is amazing !!

It's incredible how immersive it is. It fools the brain into thinking your there. However at my age, as much as I would like it to be ready for prime time, it's NOT !

The screen resolution just isn't enough for serious flight simming. Not enough good game titles and game development, yet.

There is some very exciting "new" VR hardware technologies coming in the near future.

Many of the big tech companies are already working on it. 

Cheers

I'm thinking it's getting close to 20 years. It used to display "member since"  however us early forum members had to reboot or restart our avsim forum memberships some 15 years ago.

Amazing that this sim has so many loyal dedicated followers. Some started way back, like myself 34 years ago on a Commador 64.

I often wonder where the future of flight and aviation simulation is going.  

It should be quit the adventure with some of the amazing Virtual Reality possibilities that are still yet to come.

Cheers 

Steve

I think, for me anyways, is the whole point of going 4k was to go bigger. Bigger is better.  :-)

Cheers

6700k @4.8

2 x gtx 970's in SLI

I think our flightsim hobby has become a bit of a mess.

None have any future. Performance can be appalling. Forget sufficient performance to ever adequately run Virtual Reality.

However, I really like this Aerofly 2. After seeing Rob's 4k videos my jaw dropped in amazement. Right away I had to get in on this Aerofly2. It's an awesome start as far as I'm concerned.Sure it's a limited coverage area but what's covered is spectacular. Consistent throughout and performance where it should be. 

I only wish they could have covered my Vancouver BC.

Flightsimming now 35 years and really haven't flown much since Star Citizen 2.0 was released as I love what CGI are doing and how their doing it.  :-)

Aerofly2 I hope has this potential, and please don't go overboard and produce a sim that's to far ahead of the hardware.

Cheers

Looks amazing !!!   4k @60 and great fps!

I like the potential of this sim but I hope they most importantly maintain performance with fps for VR !!!

Cheers 

I sit just 4ft from my 78" curved. Close enough for TrackIR. The immersion is amazing !!

I can run this display fine with just one gtx970 and still get a little msaa no problem, however SLI allows me to bump up to sgss and with a little improved performance.

You think if i SLI two 980ti's with one 65 and one 48 will have reasonable frames?

Two 980 ti's has got to be really nice! :-) but I couldn't say whether this would work for you.

I'm running 6700k @ 4.8 and two GTX 970's oc's and found 2x 4k displays to be too much in P3D 3.0 with the usual addons.

P3D on one display with like a video running from pc to 2nd display was reasonable, but P3D with a second window open was too big a fps hit.

Cheers

How are you running two 4ks?

I don't run both.

I've simultaneously run the 78" and 28" as multi-screen but it does lower frames. So I prefer the Samsung 78" curve as my primary with a networked MS Surface Pro.

Cheers

Howdy

Mostly when using BIG monitors or tv's for gaming, 4K resolutions make it possible. That's really it !

I have two Samsung 4k curves, 78" and 55".

With over 30+ years simming I've tried just about every kind of setup. For me BIGGER is better !

Large 4k curved screen tv's are amazing !! Particularly when flight simming.

I also might add, for me a significantly better experience @60hz

Cheers

I didn't care much for my triple monitor setup.

It's impressive to look at the setup, it seems to make sense but simming itself is not so immersive.

When I moved to a large 4k curved tv with TrackIR the experience is amazing.

The only thing that might beat it would be VR but I doubt that will ever happen until FSim is re-writen to allow optimal use of our next-gen rigs.

Cheers

Steve.

I find there to be only a small improvement with SLI configuration. Although being basically stutter free is a big bonus!!

One GPU works fine.

I watched a video a while back showing that with the Skylake processors and a compatible MB and ram, there was better SLI performance.

So I took the plunge.  :smile:

I am running P3DV3 with all the addons on a 78" Samsung curved 4K @ 60hz.

I first ran a GTX 970 on a water cooled 2600k @ 4.7, 20-30 fps

Added later another GTX 970 and setup SLI.  Better performance for sure. More fps and less stutters.

However, upgrading to a new Skylake  i7 6700k @4.8 and a ROG Maximus motherboard and DDR4 memory was a significant boost bringing fps to 40 +

Dummied down for mainstream.

It's hilarious how they spin it (bring aviation simulation to a whole new generation). 

I've been flight simming about 34 years and without going into all what's wrong with this pastime, it has evolved into quite a mess. Yes, there are some amazing sim combinations of platform and addon, but it's all so fragemented. I have orbx addons i'm stilling waiting for updates to, while they're probably busy working on the next cookie cutter airport.

All I can say is thank goodness for Star Citizen and the vision of one man, Chris Roberts.

Our flightsim would benefit from this same kind of approach.

Cheers

ASUS ROG Maximus motherboards are great!!, and 5 way optimization really works to simplify the overclocking process.

RAM designed for Skylake and the Corsair H110i water cooling.

I had no trouble getting my 6700k a stable 4.8 overclock using ASUS AI Suite.

Cheers

Steve

My guess is Brokerage fees.

Any product moving from USA to CAN that is not brought in through large distribution companies is going to cost much more than what is the normal.

Once the Rift and Vive can be purchased at Best Buy, Newegg, NCIX, etc, we'll likely see our prices lower.

I would love a VR headset, however this is a perfect example of some tech that will mature over the next couple years.

Makes sense to wait at these prices as well.

Cheers

True, but I beg to differ on your analysis of the causes. To me, this is simply a consequence of an economy that relied too much on the resource sector. High oil prices kept the Loonie so high that manufactured goods were not competitive in the US and elsewhere. Another consequence: car manufacturers were able to produce more cost-effective in Mexico and moved away from Ontario.

 

However, I am very optimistic for the future. The low exchange rate hits us flight simmers hard, but it also helps to boost Canadian exports and tourism. In a few years, Canada will have a nicely diversified economy again.

 

Natural resources are a nice thing to have, but their price and abundance is unpredictable and can ruin a country if it relies too much on it. 

 

Peter

You nailed it. High oil prices and our economy relied to much on it's production and export.

I'm optimistic too for the future as hopefully our Gov stimulates the economy and invests in infrastructure and technologies.

In the meantime FS purchases will likely halt.

I'll sell some used tech on ebay, taking advantage of the dollar and buy a spaceship for my new love, Star Citizen.   :smile:

Thanks for the really good tips !!

I think my challenge now is determining which problem aircraft are where. I'll give those tools a try.

Cheers

Steve

I am using UT2 in P3dV3 and it seems my GA AI ( only about 50%) have this texture problem. They don't even load or appear later.

I have searched the internet and these forums but I can't seem to find a similar topic.

Any ideas ?

Cheers

Steve

Two GTX 970's in SLI, with my setup a little smoother and about 5-9 fps better. I can apply up to 8x sgss with little if any affect on fps. Think I'll just stick with some NCP settings as 4k really eliminates the need for AA and SS settings in NVI. 

For a couple of weeks though I kinda went crazy with settings and tweeks, trying to figure out the cause of my FPS drop from 40 + to teens. Thought maybe one of these many tweaks or a scenery was the problem. Turns out it was a few nasty processes running in the background.  :Shame On You:

The addition of Simstarter to create costume settings profiles, tweaked for the style of flight, and it's jumpstart feature really saves me time and fuss.

Cheers 

Thanks for the video Ron.

Based on that video an upgrade wouldn't be worth the extra cost.

970 sli is actually looking very good and his fps at 4k are around where mine are in P3dv3.

It does look like I should certainly wait for the next crop of hopeful GPU's.

Cheers

Are you really suggesting that one single GTX970 is not up to the job?

:smile: 2 are just a little bit better. 

Yes, I'm interested in what I might gain going to a single better card like the 980 ti