davew_uk

Steady on, put down your handbag I guess I like value for money and I also have to consider how much time to invest in new software.I'm a married man with two young children and a business to run. I have very few hours in the week to relax, so if I'm going to invest hours and hours to learn a new flightsim it had better be *good*.

Calling something advertising is not an accusation. That would suggest that its bad for a developer to advertise their new software on a special interest forum that relates to their product. I don't think that it is bad at all, I was very curious to see screenshots of the rest of the world. And seemingly here, a special rare few just simply cannot stand any reasonable discussion of their favourite software. You just can't win.

It's a new product that very few people have in their hands just yet. It's also pretty much the only alternative to FSX. The screenshots were posted by the person that worked on the scenery to promote interest in buying the product. This post is an advertismentSo of course we're going to discuss whether or not it's worth buying What else is there to discuss? do you believe that computer game screenshots have intrinsic artistic merit and we should be discussing the composition and choice of colours? Sadly, Seattle seemed to be missing from my demo download - all I could see was green fields, a few suburban houses and roads that went nowhere

I've only replied when I've been replied to. The length and number of my posts is directly correlated to what I've been asked to respond to. You're absolutely right, of course. I should come back at some point in the future and give the demo another try.Till then, there is Flight, Prepar3d and this new AeroflyFS to look into to see if my civil flight sim itch can be scratched.

Are you calling me a whiner? come on mountain man, don't mince your words

That sounds to me like a straightforward attempt to silence criticism and stifle debate. I don't agree with your views on the Seattle scenery, but nowhere did I say you were whining or tell you to go away.

If I cared about dogs I'd be in a dog forum

And in X-Plane 10 the auto-generated objects plopped down all over the place look better? I'll have to remember that when I'm wondering as to why the electricity pylons march across freeways and railway lines, roads and railroads appear in strange formations etc. etc.Now I know you really are trolling me.

A big pity then that he didn't hire 1.5 million dollars worth of scenery artists!

No

Not hard to believe at all. It's a product, on a shelf, I can take it or leave it. I'm fully up to speed on that, thank you.The problem we have though here is that our shelf in the global software supermarket is very, very small. It isn't really possible to overlook a major release from the main franchises because there are ONLY TWO main franchises in civil flight simulation.From my perspective, XP10 is a missed opportunity. They had years with the market to themselves since FSX was released, and even with the knowledge that the Aces team had been canned they failed to capitalise on that opportunity and deliver a sock-blowing-off moment. I read the pre-release hype, drooled over the pre-release screenshots and now right at the point where I can buy this thing, I have found out that actually it isn't actually anything like the hype promised. That is what I mean about the "emperors new clothes" - Laminar promised the best thing since sliced bread and delivered the empty green fields of Seattle. Surely I'm not the only one that sees that? Oh please, it looks fine from 5000 feet. The top-down view was to be consistent with Google Maps, that's the comparison you should be paying attention to.

I must apologise then for clogging up the forum. I had no idea that in an internet forum posts relevant to the topic were actually discouraged.

Oh, that's a shame. I was waiting to hear why it should be that I need much more powerful hardware to get the same FPS when I'm seeing less buildings in scenery depicting the same location. Is that not related to efficiency then?In all seriousness I have spent far more time on the demo than I should have done because there are precious few flight sim products on the market and I like to check out all of them. The minute someone delivers a half decent sim I'll buy it and fly it alongside FSX. I have no loyalty, love or hate for any of the main franchises, I don't care, its just a piece of software.But you guys, seriously, it's like I'm sitting here and saying "the emperor has no clothes" and you're sitting there saying "no seriously, the scenery is better, can't you see??". That's the only reason this conversation has gone on as long as it has done. I just don't get where you're coming from at all.

Actually, I can. Realistic depiction of Seatlle at 20fps in FSX, fully maxed out (I just checked).Poor depiction of Seattle at 0.15fps in X-Plane 10 (fully maxed out) as per screenshot earlier.FSX is able to deliver a better depiction of the same real world location for less CPU/GPU resources. I don't love FSX, its a product that I paid for. How can you actually physically love a piece of software? similarly, how can I hate X-Plane? it is a piece of software I don't even own yet but I was considering buying it.I'm here to find out what I'm going to get for my $80 if I buy it. I'm also interested in the new AeroFS flight sim, should I love it or hate it or just coldly evaluate if it will improve my simming life and then plunk down my cash? I think you're kidding. This is what they call trolling, right? is there a hidden camera around here somewhere?

It's a shipping product, I can buy it right now. If I buy it right now, I want to fly it right now.Are you saying I should lay it down like a fine wine while it matures?