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Well. I've flown to malaga, barcelona, marsella... with your tips in flight planning and...perfect. No problems, no annoying vectors previous to contact approach all perfect. Thank you very much for the support sir :P .

Thank you very much Ronzie!! A great answer. I will try it in my next flight and of course I let you Know. PS: My mistake in the links. This is the correct link STAR rwy 31 Thanks one more time!

Thank you for your fast answer sir. Yes, I have read the manual but it don't solve my questions. 1.- In LEMG there is two STAR procedure for North arrivals: VULPE1K if rwy 12/13 is in use and VULPE1J if rwy 31 is in use. Then i need to know the rwy in use before the initial point of the STAR (in this case the fix VULPE). But in RC isn't possible because VULPE fix is at 60 NM from the airport. STAR rwy 31 STAR rwy 12/13 2.- If you see the star VULPE1J (rwy31 in use) is like a LEFT downwind to the 31 runway and END in the fix ETROV (IAF, initial approach point). The .pln that i load in RC include all the points of the STAR. But when i contact with approach, the PREVIOUS controller vectored me to a point in the RIGHT downwind of rwy 31 (?¿?¿). From this point i can't do the published approach. In other words, when i contact approach i'm in the another side of the airport. The question is: ¿Why the ON ROUTE controller give vectors to me if i'm flying the plan load in RC? Then when i contact with approach i'm OUT of my flight plan. Thanks in advance SIR. Excuse my poor english. Is difficult explain this for me in english.

HELLO!!! I can't fly stars with radar contact. The approach contact (and rwy assignment) is too late (after star's first point). For example the arrivals to Málaga (LEMG) is runway specific. The first point of the star (if for example you are flying from Madrid, LEMD) is VULPE that is 69 NM from LEMG. There isn't common nearest points in the two posibles VULPE stars (rwy 31 and rwy 13). In the real life, the pilots contact with approach controller (118.45) in the begining of the star (before VULPE) and the controller give information to the pilots about the rwy in use. But we suppose that i know the rwy in use. While i am flying the star procedure (remember I don't contact still with approach controller) the route controller give me an initial vector (?¿?¿) that breaks completely my star and all final procedure. When i contact with approach controller is imposible continue flying the star (i am in middle of nothing) and iap option is useless. A posible solution to this problem is that RC can known the initial point or fix of an STAR procedure and allow you flying without vectors. (except for traffic separation). Any help here???? Thanks. PD: Sorry for my english. Spanish man :P