21 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Core 0 4.8 -> P3D so do not exclude

Core 1. 4.6

All other cores 4.3

from what i saw, the maximum turbo boost is 4.6. how you set different speed for different cores without OC? 

Hi guys,

i have regular 8700 cpu, not K version.

it can go 6 cores @ 4.3 or 1 core @ 4.6, what you guys think is better? right now im on the 6 cores at 4.2-3. all of them running to 100% with P4.3 around temp of 78-80c.

im not using any AM parameter.

another thing i noticed, i see my 1080 card mostly running on 80-90% usage, 80c temp. and only 3000Gb vram used for the card (out of 8 )

if the card is almots kiiling himself why the vram so low?

thanks!

On 6/30/2018 at 12:00 AM, GSalden said:

My presets automatically set your HDR in P3D ( brightness , bloom and saturation ) 

ASP4 : 4 cloudlayers / cloud draw distance 115 nm / visibility max 120 nm

ASCA : full dynamics 

EnvTex : only skies ( integration with ASCA and EnvTex skies only ) / photo water for inland and sea

PTA : All Months preset set ( in the preset info you will see all the above settings and some more )

can we get the preset? 🙂 

its also fit for tomato?

take a look at this link it will make your life easier :

🙂

what was the screen resolution fot the test monitor? the picture looks clear and sharp with that monitor with only MSAA? 

Setup_Prepar3D.exe is the complete install of the program.

you want to upgrade from 4.2 or clean install?

On 6/28/2018 at 3:17 AM, Jetset408 said:

My Samsung did this until I found a menu item on the TV that allowed me to select the device type each source input was. When I choose PC as the device, the picture became beautiful!

Interestingly this problem re-occurs when I switch to 30Hz output and I just cannot get the picture to display nicely again. Shame as I would love to try the 30Hz/V-Sync combo....

Not sure if this is anyway similar to your problem but thought i would share in case it was the same.

Cheers

i saw this solution somewhere but i cant do it on my TV 😞

Hi guys,

i have really wired problem with my pc connected to my TV screen, the screen is 32" and probably 1080p (i will tell you now why i know)

i couldn't find anything online about this TV, its a fuji japan brand. while the TV connected to my PS4 it works like a charm and really crisp picture, and i can see the TV shows 1080p on the side.

when it connected  to the PC (1080 GPU) it looks horrible, the picture so blurry i cant even read, i tried on NCP to change to FULL at the colors, also no-scaling.

also tried to change the setting in the TV (4:3,16:9. etc...). nothing make it better..

maybe someone knows? 

thank you . 

20 minutes ago, Poppet said:

Hello lidorx7 

With the exception of Orbx Global Base and FTX Trees,  The Orbx Installers Install extra files to these locations Instead of modifying Prepar3D default files,  This means you can either Update or reinstall Prepar3D and keep your entire Orbx Install in place.  Note:  If you update the Scenery component or reinstall Prepar3D you will need to reinstall Orbx Global base and FTX Trees,  thats it though

Please see the topic beow for steps you can take after either updating or reinstalling Prepar3D 

 

thank you! very helpful information and guide. do you know if PMDG files also kept in place while updating the content? 

so i guess now i know better why im using 8xSGSS on my 1366X768 screen 😂

btw, my screen works perfectly with my PlayStation4 and it shows 1080..i dont know why when im connecting it with HDMI to the PC it all looks fuzzy and blurry to hell, so im using DP(GPU side) to VGA (TV side) and the image much better, but lower resolution it support.. can someone know what can be the issue? 

i thought if i get 4K screen i will say goodbye to the SGSS but now you guys confused me totally 😶

19 hours ago, jason99vmi said:

Just follow Poppet's instructions.  https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/495199-updating-prepar3d-v3-v4-using-the-update-component-installers/

Hi Jason,

from the Poppets i cant understand if ORBX is deleted or not,

he also says that those folders are replaced when you updating content 

Install_ Content.msi is including Scripts, redist, SimObjects, Weather, Scenarios, Ecosystem, Fonts, Autogen, Effects, gauges, Sound, Texture
 

ORBX use this folders (texture) isn't it? and PMDG and other aircraft using the gauges folder.. so that mean they also going to be deleted?

39 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

Ah, that explains it. 

My GPU is the 1080Ti (see signature). Looks like I need your advice rather than the other way around 😉

My flying habits tend to keep me well away from busy hubs (I prefer being out in the sticks or enjoying mountainous scenery) so frame rates are rarely a problem as I usually manage to maintain 30 quite easily. Still, it would be nice to see better performance in situations such as this. Sitting in the default F22 at KVPS while using my ‘Day Flights’ Display Profile I am seeing 60-70fps with the slider at Unlimited (with a virgin Prepar3D installation fps exceed 100). Default KBOS, for some reason, is presenting a tougher challenge. Perhaps, and somewhat paradoxically, the FlyTampa scenery is more frame rate friendly, this despite its added complexities. Maybe I should purchase and give it a go.

Locking your frame rates in the sim is much less GPU stressful. I usually see GPU usage anywhere between 60 and 70%. Using the Unlimited setting unleashes the GPU to render as many frames as possible while generating more heat. Fortunately the 3 fan cooling solution on mine seems pretty efficient. Using the Unlimited setting all the time seems somewhat unnecessary, however. Instead, I use the ‘Fibre Frame Fraction Dynamic’ utility along with a locked frame rate to adjust this sim variable on the fly depending on altitude. This helps to maintain frame rates, and hence performance, in more challenging situations. Somewhat disappointingly, and for whatever reason, it didn’t help much at the default KBOS 🙁

Mike

Hi Mike,

sounds like you have a one of the sliders or few, way too much to the right. (your 1080TI is very strong but still, those are really things you cant go maxed)

there is few of them that are FPS killers, send me your settings i will try to see if its there.

hopefully in the 4.3 we can use them, i still need to check 🙂

5 minutes ago, ErichB said:

I seemed to miss seeing this feature;

1. New Features:

•            Miracles

 

But I'll believe it if you tell me it is so.✈️

😂😂😂

sounds like a dream!!

i have orbx global and openlc EU, if i update the content and scenery i need to install them again?

its enough to update just the client?

thanks

ok so what i learned so far:

1. higher resolution mean less AA needed. 

2. Bills511 get really nice smooth picture without Inspector.

3. i really need to fix my resolution 

16 hours ago, lodestar said:

Uncheck "enhance the application setting" and leave 8XSGSS only. It works this way, you need "enhance the application setting" only if you are going to set MSAA in nvidia inspector, which is not needed, since you should set this in P3D only. Your current Nvidia inspector settings could cause problems. 

Like others said, 8xSGSS looks to much to me, but it deppends on the resolution of your monitor and GPU. I have GTX 1060 6GB & 1920x1080 monitor resolution, and i can use 4xSGSS.

Be careful to always match MSAA and SGSS. 4xMSAA with 4xSGSS or 8xMSAA with 8xSGSS. I wrote this, becouse what you described can happen if there is a mismatch between those settings. Also, if you set MSAA in P3D, it must be set to "application controlled" in nvidia inspector(which is default). If you are going to use 8xSGSS, check what your GPU is doing, you can use GPU-Z for that, ensure that is not at 100% all the time. Try also 4xMSAA and 4xSGSS, i couldn't find the reason to go higher then that, it looks great with my 1920x1080 monitor. 

The only better thing for me is to use Nvidia DSR. If you have 4K monitor, you don't need any of this

Lodestar,

you have to use DSR? what you get by just using the default AA in P3D with you 1920X1080 res? i also see that my card is under 80-90% load with 4XSGSS,

it is really bad for the card?

8 hours ago, Cruachan said:

Hi lidorx7,

LOL! You’ve got me ‘worried’ now!

I’m assuming you are using 3rd Party Scenery for KBOS - FlyTampa? My default KBOS looks pretty naff in comparison so I didn’t feel any images from me would prove helpful. Indeed your overall image quality looks better than mine.

Anyway, I loaded the PMDG 737 at Gate A4 and, after close inspection, I formed the impression that our ‘jaggies’, when visible, are fairly comparable. Perhaps it all boils down to what we consider as being acceptable when weighed against desired performance. However, I have to say that I am unaware, most of the time, of any antialiasing shortcomings although I will admit to preferring the visual results while using the 4xSGSS/4xMSAA combo.

Frame rates were disappointing in and out of the VC: 17.5fps with frames locked at 30 and around 21fps with Unlimited. That’s with the default KBOS so I dread to think what FlyTampa would bring to my party. I watched their promo video which, as always with such videos, was smooth as silk. I suspect some arcane magic was involved.

My monitor’s native resolution is 2560 x 1440.

Regards,

Mike

Hi Mike,

yes it is FlyTampa KBOS, im actually get 30-40 FPS in this scenery, somtimes 26.. depends on light and angles.

what GPU you have?

so some news.. 

i did clean install of the driver and installed the newest one for my 1080. i did it like Mike recomended with the DDU.

resulution of 1360X768 which is my recomended for some reason. this is 1080p screen, 

and it worked really good with FSX

the thing is still here. some photos so you can see, please enlarge the pictures.

sorry its not it the order, i first tried only 8XSGSS, later i added NCP configurations like Mike said, after that i cleaned the NCP and added the inspector configurations (only 4XSGSS ) and did 4XMSAA in P3D. as you can see its much better with the SGSS but still not clear at all.

another thing to notice is that the GPU is working around 80-90% on 4XSGSS

the pictures are from KBOS Gate A4

4 XMSAA 4 XSGSS

4 XMSAA 4 XSGSS VC

8 MSAA+NCP OUT

8XMSAA-OUT

8MSAA VC

4XSGSS on runway

delete my

34 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

Make sure FXAA is off. I'm using 4xSSAA and 8xAF set in P3D (not inspector). It looks smooth enough without killing my framerate.

Could be one of the settings in Inspector hasn't taken, is causing a conflict or unsupported in P3D; you shouldn't really need Inspector with P3D in most setups since you can set the required stuff in P3D anyway.

the FXAA is off, the only inspector settings is 8XSGSS and enhanced the application settings.

25 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

Hi,

8xSGSS is overkill and will bring your GPU to its knees as well as severely compromising performance. I used to use the 4xSGSSAA / 4xMSAA combination which did produce good results. However, in the end the performance hit proved to be too much for me to accept such a configuration for general use. 

Restore P3D defaults in Nvidia Inspector and Save.

Use 8xMSAA in Sim and, if enabled, uncheck FXAA. That works for me and provides a good workable balance between any performance impact, which is minimal, and visual appearance which is still very good.

Mike

Mike,

with just 8XMSAA in the sim it looks so horrible like i cant even explain . it looks like a game from the 80'. thats why i went with Inspector. 

later today i wiil send a picture. 

Hi guys,

trying my luck again.

my rig: i7 8700, GTX1080 , DDR4 16GB at 3000, WIN10 

although i set 8XSGSS with Nvidia Inspector and 8XMSAA in the sim, the AA is still not sharp, from 2000 feet in the pmdg 737 the runway looks really really jagged and has stairs look, as well as high buildings and other autogen.

also the VC looks not sharp, the gauges and the text not clear, but when i zoom really close its really clean. 

what can cause that?

thank you.

the monitor has HDMI or VGA , with HDMI everything looks really bad, including the desktop. 

lodestar, thank you for the detailed answers.

i did reset the inspector, without SGSS things looks horrible it has to be between 4 to 8 to get sort of nice picture (still not clear and sharp, but most of the shimmer is out)

i bought DP to VGA, my maximum resolution with this type is 1360X768 for some reason. any higher than that make the screen lose signal,both desktop and P3D .

i remember when i was on FSX i think it was the same resolution but the picture was much more sharp, it was with 660 GTX with VGA to VGA cable to the screen .

can you please explain what you mean by rebuild shaders and how to do that? i think of buying the ENVSHADE and ENVTEX but i dont really know much about it .

the thing that drive me crazy is that my PS4 run so good on this monitor with HDMI!

the thing is that this monitor was connected to my PS4 console with HDMI the graphics was so sharp and clear! i just dont know what im missing here with the PC

lodestar,

thank you for your kind help. i did select it to the "full" mode. it changed the colors a bit but the blurry picture still there.

it looks like the picture is blurry and you need glasses, i also tried to turn of the SGSS and it looks horrible,

im more worried about the image quality now, and after i fix that i can fix the frames.

ok so some news,

the monitor is not 1080 as i thought, i thought its 1080 because win 10 allows you to choose resolution up to 1920X1080.

so what i did, i took my old monitor that is also 32" i know for sure its 1080, but it have to connect via VGA, HDMI looks horrbile on this monitor while it works with PC. so i connected HDMI to VGA converter to the GPU,

1920X1080 desktop res looks good, but the clearest resolution in the sim is almost the lowest one..1280X768, but frames seem to get really low , 17 fps at night on the 777 at KBOS 

while taxi to the runway.

i think i need to buy a new monitor.

the sim resolution is 1920X1080, the desktop resolution support the same but im using 1366X768 , the 1920X1080 make evetything look really small and blurry on desktop

im not using PTA or Envshade, i may give it a try and see if it change anything.

what monitor settings you advice to change?

i tried the mipmap already ..

look how everything so sharp in this video:

i gave it also a try but its nothing to compare for what i got..