Thanks, so i mention i use P3D v4.5 and the advice is update to version 8.4.1 for v5 and v6??? If my pc was able to handle this version believe me i would have done so a long time ago. Yes maybe i am one of the remaing few whom use P3D v4. It is a pity a few people have the "power" to advice people what version to use while P3D v4 still has all kind of tools, scenery still on the market. The ones who owns the nice tool to make the sim comes alive stopped supporting.