Tim_ELLX

As for the actual topic, I can only say that even in 2024 and 2025, and beyond, you can still enjoy an "old" simulator. There are communities that still enjoy FS 2004 today. For me, FSX and P3D are still just as relevant as they were 10 years ago. I’ll be straightforward: I like the visuals of P3D v5. I enjoy flying with it. I wish there were a few more aircraft addons, but I’m fine with it. And I love these gems. Some time ago, I bought the iFly 737NG. The QW 787, Majestic… all great addons that are really fun. Now that Orbx is having their annual sale, I will be picking up more for P3D. It’s possible that the current, or let’s say “older,” FS 2020 looks better right out of the box. But for me, it’s about the flying… as long as the overall feeling is right (I can’t describe it any other way), I’m happy. Photo scenery always looks great, but FS 2020 and 24 show that without a server or internet, you don’t get much out of it. Auto-Ortho in X-Plane is nice, but not always optimal. I like the rendering in P3D with the Orbx textures, landclasses, and vectors. For me, that’s the representation that’s just good and strikes a nice balance between storage space, hardware requirements, and quality. First and foremost, I’m sitting in the plane and navigating. That’s what brings me joy. And for me, P3D is not dead. As long as people are still flying with it and talking about it, everything is good. On the contrary, I often feel more comfortable in P3D forums because it’s calmer, more laid-back... the mass influx is over. Now, only the enthusiasts are left.

Hi, just a quick note from my side regarding this post... I just feel like I need to say something. I’m currently using FS 2020, XP11, XP12, and P3D v5. How does one come to say (a) that X-Plane is ‘inferior’? I understand anyone who says, ‘I prefer Simulator A over B because…’ but inferior? Today, we’re fortunate enough to have a variety of simulators to choose from. And yes, I have to accept that some people express their disregard for competition in this way, but to me, it quickly crosses into disrespect for users as well. When I call a program inferior, in my view, I’m also demeaning its users. Because essentially, I’m implying that they’d rather use something inferior than something of higher quality. I find such a perspective and judgment quite terrible. Even though, unfortunately, it’s becoming the norm online. And (b) To say that Toliss and Hotstart aren’t on the same level as Fenix... sorry, I don’t get that at all. The Challenger not on par… sorry, but I have to assume the person doesn’t actually have the Challenger, and Toliss is an excellent system simulation. Yes, it has some graphical weaknesses; there’s no need to argue that. But it’s easily on the same level as the Fenix. And as for the countless addons required for XP12... sorry, but that’s just empty bashing. The idea that no one will switch from FS 2020 to XP… no clue. I couldn’t care less. But to kick other simulators and their users like that – I find that shabby, even though it’s normal online. Sometimes, I feel that while Asobo has done a great job expanding the community with FS 2020, the tone has become deplorable.