For those of you that may be concerned:I made a backup of my NG aircraft.cfg file and then proceeded to load the aircraft with the ACLoader (http://secure.simmarket.com/product_info.php?products_id=457) program.It worked like a charm and to be quite honest with you the aircraft performed better with the ACLoader than with the 737 load editor.ThanksWilson HinesUAL006|UPS1008|CX776--------------------------------------Proficiencies: PSS 747,777, A32x, CS 727---------------------------------------ActiveSky|FSRealTime|FSBuild2|FSNav|Jep SimCharts2---------------------------------------Athlon XP 2600+|Thermaltake Volcano 7+|Gigabyte GA-7VXP (rev1.1)|Geil PC3200 512MB|GeFarce Ti4600|Antec 1060 SOHO|WD 120 GB 8MB round cables|Lite-On 48X CDRW|Razer Boomslang|19" NEC FE950 & 19" Sony Trinitron| Saitek X45 throttle and stick|HP Scanner and DeskJet 890C|MS Win XP SP1|http://heavylhc.com/images/av/anna.jpg

Hi,I am a Beta-Tester of ACLoader 4.x. So, how did you fix the problem, that when you use ACLoader, the "reference datum position" in the Z axe is 2,097 feet off, 'cause ACLoader puts it down to zero, but the original value was 2,097. So, all stuff like lights, engines, smoke, cockpit etc. will get off by this error after you loaded the TNG by ACLoader. So, please WAIT untill Scott has released the update where ALL axes will be adressed and computet by ACLoader when you load the B737TNGs.But anyway, I just believe and know that loaded with ACLoader will and does make a BIG difference in performance etc. of the PMDG B737TNG. ACLoader is the best ADDON software what matters loading PAX and Cargo into any FS2k2/4 aircraft.Thank you for posting it, even so it is a bit too early though.>For those of you that may be concerned:>>I made a backup of my NG aircraft.cfg file and then proceeded>to load the aircraft with the ACLoader>(http://secure.simmarket.com/product_info.php?products_id=457)>program.>>It worked like a charm and to be quite honest with you the>aircraft performed better with the ACLoader than with the 737>load editor.>>Thanks>>Wilson Hines>UAL006|UPS1008|CX776>-------------------------------------->Proficiencies: PSS 747,777, A32x, CS 727>--------------------------------------->ActiveSky|FSRealTime|FSBuild2|FSNav|Jep SimCharts2>--------------------------------------->Athlon XP 2600+|Thermaltake Volcano 7+|Gigabyte GA-7VXP>(rev1.1)|Geil PC3200 512MB|GeFarce Ti4600|Antec 1060 SOHO|WD>120 GB 8MB round cables|Lite-On 48X CDRW|Razer Boomslang|19">NEC FE950 & 19" Sony Trinitron| Saitek X45 throttle and>stick|HP Scanner and DeskJet 890C|MS Win XP SP1|>>http://heavylhc.com/images/av/anna.jpg

Well, all I have to personally "go on" is personal experience...to early or not. It worked fine for me, I don't think I was trying to make a statement based on scientific beta testing or an official statement on Scott's behalf. Just saying she worked like a charm for me.Wilson HinesUAL006|UPS1008|CX776--------------------------------------Proficiencies: PSS 747,777, A32x, CS 727---------------------------------------ActiveSky|FSRealTime|FSBuild2|FSNav|Jep SimCharts2---------------------------------------Athlon XP 2600+|Thermaltake Volcano 7+|Gigabyte GA-7VXP (rev1.1)|Geil PC3200 512MB|GeFarce Ti4600|Antec 1060 SOHO|WD 120 GB 8MB round cables|Lite-On 48X CDRW|Razer Boomslang|19" NEC FE950 & 19" Sony Trinitron| Saitek X45 throttle and stick|HP Scanner and DeskJet 890C|MS Win XP SP1|http://heavylhc.com/images/av/anna.jpg

Gents-Currently the ONLY loader that will perform correctly with our airplane is our own.The reason for this is that we used a reference datum that was accurate to Boeing specs rather than making the reference datum match the "normal MSFS postion."As such, using a non PMDG aircraft loading can cause some unwanted behavior such as:1) Exceeded nose weight.2) Exceeded tail weight.3) Unstable Mach trim condition.As we continue to diagnose SOME of the reports of cruise flight spins, we are finding that this is the circumstance.Hope that sheds a tiny bit of light!

Dir Sir Robert S. Randazzo,I may respectly hight lighte that ACLoader does take your reference datum position in account and so doesnt change anything about your own wanted centre of weight and balance like when your B737 would be loaded with your own loader. And after the next soon to come update, even the Z axe will be adressed correctly by ACLoader and no manual workaround would be needed. I even experienced some very weird behaviour what matters the trim of your B737-600 after only using your loader and not ACLoader. I even provided you with screenshots but never got a reply about the trim issue.May I respectly remind you to first think about that just maybe ACLoader could have a better effect with the flight dynamics than your own, because it was programmed, developed and tested to enhance the feel and the handling to a more realistic level of ALL aircrafts of FS2k2.If you dont like that some of your customers do commercial announcements to hightlight another payware ADDON software in this forum, please say so. But please do not say "never" and "only" without providing your statements with arguments out of own experiences and logic by first having tried out ACLoader yourself, so you can tell us where and why ACLoader works less good than your own loader. As a Beta-Tester I have a lot of experience with ACLoader version 3 and 4, I tested both over the last two years with about all payware and freeware aircraft you may find at all anywhere for download or to by in a front store shop. So, It may happen that I know what I am talking about.And please do not take my statements here too personaly, just out of having a bad day or night. I know my word may seem to be a lot of critism and I seem to argue with you, but that is not what I have in mind doing. If you do not already make a lot of money by selling your new and latest software and that may be the reason for your way of writing, than I am more than sorry.So, please have first a try out and find out yourself it ACLoader works better or not than your own loader. Here is a place where you can find more information:http://www.fsflightdeck.com/acloader.htmlI wish you a very nice and productive day though.With a lot of respect for your hard work of developement...>Gents->>Currently the ONLY loader that will perform correctly with our>airplane is our own.>>The reason for this is that we used a reference datum that was>accurate to Boeing specs rather than making the reference>datum match the "normal MSFS postion.">>As such, using a non PMDG aircraft loading can cause some>unwanted behavior such as:>>1) Exceeded nose weight.>2) Exceeded tail weight.>3) Unstable Mach trim condition.>>As we continue to diagnose SOME of the reports of cruise>flight spins, we are finding that this is the circumstance.>>Hope that sheds a tiny bit of light!>>

I am sorry to be incitive here. So, if you don't want to get mad then the best thing to do is not to read on.Sometimes the ego of developers is just too much for me. There is another popular payware utility that I have and it is listed in my signature (not ACloader). I had a problem with FS and over a two weeke period I narrowed it down to this utility. Almost proudly, I thought to my self "I think I have found a problem maybe nobody else has." I couldn't find this probelm being talked about in the forums. Would you believe when I posted it to their forum the guy come back to me and said "Our software has never caused a crash in FS2k2 and because of it's nature we find it almost impossible to do so." Are you guys being that anal? Is the ego level on this NG that high? What is wrong with me saying that ACloader loaded my aircraft and it flew better than ever and (something that I have since deducted)CLEARED UP A BUG THAT I HAD IN THE FMC: "Insufficient Fuel" warning hasn't reappeared. Admittantly, that could be coincidence.*shaking my head*Wilson HinesUAL006|UPS1008|CX776--------------------------------------Proficiencies: PSS 747,777, A32x, CS 727---------------------------------------ActiveSky|FSRealTime|FSBuild2|FSNav|Jep SimCharts2|ACLoader---------------------------------------Athlon XP 2600+|Thermaltake Volcano 7+|Gigabyte GA-7VXP (rev1.1)|Geil PC3200 512MB|GeFarce Ti4600|Antec 1060 SOHO|WD 120 GB 8MB round cables|Lite-On 48X CDRW|Razer Boomslang|19" NEC FE950 & 19" Sony Trinitron| Saitek X45 throttle and stick|HP Scanner and DeskJet 890C|MS Win XP SP1|http://heavylhc.com/images/av/anna.jpg

Sir,this loading and balance issue is now a matter strictly between you and Scott Campbell, developer of ACLoader. You two may provide each other with free software and info, so the amount of both your customers will get the best support you can provide them without you and Scott are fighting each other. You both have developed and released realy nice ADDON software and they should work with each other.I will keep off writing bad about your loader and you please will keep off writing bad about ACLoader in any way. Both work, but if one works better or less good is completely uppon customer experience. Customer will surely provide both of you with experience reports in different forums, so you both may gain productivity and prospere by the customer reports and develope even better software versions.Just as a customer of both I see no automaticly computed balancing by your Loader. If you, as a customer, dont know a real lot about how to load a airplane, you never know if your PMDG B737 is loaded in balance. So, there will always be a problem with trimming and flying, as well as with fuel. The AP will try all its best to fly the plane even when it is out of balance, not only having maybe problems with heavy weather situation. So, fuel will get used and burned not balanced when the plane is not mostly good trimmed and in balance of the weight it carries. So, please just get over your hight and big ego attitude and think about how a DAU (dummest assumed user) customer might use the "PMDG 737 Load Manager" and so get a realy unbalanced aircraft... What you may do about it and if info exchange with Scott could give you usefull tips and if ACLoader may be better is uppon you and Scott.Here are some screenshots about your Aircraft loaded with your loader without consideration of the physics of flightdynamic and how much cargo/Pax loading in balance or out of balance influence the AP trimming of your aircrafts.http://forums.avsim.com/dcboard.php?az=sho...5886&page=#8309