Hi all,Why is it that some very small airfields in the UK, like military fields, are listed as having sids/stars but EGCC (biggest airport in the north) doesn't have any at all?Ian

Hello Ian I have done the sid/stars for EGCC with the help of Terry. I have left out the LISTO sids, as they are for non jet aircraft except in times of congestion. It may not be quite as well written as some but it does the job. I am working on EGKK at the moment.You are welcome to download it from here. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simon.butler2...usefulfiles.htmMy idea was to write a few that were missing at airports the VA I fly for uses,to make life easier on vatsim.Hope this helps Simon

Hi Simon thanks for that. BTW the LISTO sids are used for all a/c departing the 06s towards HON ;)IanVATSIM-UK 12

Simon,Many thanks for the SIDs/STARs for Manchester.Ian,;) >>I can confirm that. They fly right over my house at 2,000ft :-(Cheers,

Thanks for the info Ian and Ray, I will add the LISTO sids tonight.Simon

Simon,Just some other info (that you may already know). 06 departures are always from 06L only. 06R is used exclusively for landings during peak times otherwise they use 06L (with easterly winds of course).Likewise 24R and 24L are both used for departures but 24L is not used between 1100-1400 Zulu after an agreement with the residents of Knutsford. Landings when 24 is used are always on 24R.Cheers,

Thanks SimonCheers

Hi Ray, Do we have a super-computer available for us to use to keep tabs on all the rules and regs for all the SIDS and STARS worlwide as the local communities see fit to have them altered? What a horrific challenge.Cheers

IanTake a look at reply # 2 in the following thread:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...ing_type=searchTerry Yingling explains the source of the SID/STAR data and the reason why some major airports are missing.