Ray Proudfoot

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Variable electricity pricing is my guess. Hence the constant adverts to get you to accept a smart meter. Only with one can you be charged different amounts for different times of the day or night. If every EV owner charges their vehicle overnight that could end up having the highest rates. Plus there’s the anomaly where domestic energy use has a 5% VAT charge but at a charging station it’s 20%.

Those vehicles have always caused damage but there are far fewer of them on non major roads. The extra weight and sheer number of modern cars irrespective of the engine type is a problem. Some multi-storey car parks built decades ago weren’t designed for the weight of modern cars and could collapse.

I bought a Honda Civic e-HEV full hybrid a couple of months ago. I chewed over hybrid or EV for some time. Both would fit in my garage (mandatory) but the killer was the price of over £40K for the EV. Cars of that price are deemed luxury in the UK. That meant an extra £400 per year for four years of VED on top of the standard tax of £195 although this is just £10 for the first year. My hybrid VED is £195. So if our leaders want us to buy EVs they need to consider raising the limit before pretty ordinary family cars become “luxury”. But the irony is with their extra weight EVs do more damage to our roads than ICE ones. Oh the irony. And don’t get me started on the size of modern cars. They’re ridiculous and totally unsuitable for our roads.

@aerostar, I’m not commenting further.

I think it was your description of part of his reply as “bold” that appeared to challenge him. You’re probably aware of what MTOW means. Loading that much fuel would have exceeded it. No competent captain would do that. Safety of the aircraft comes ahead of any fuel cost saving. There may be circumstances where extra fuel can be carried. I don’t know of what conditions would make that feasible. I’ll leave that to the experts. Knowledge and experience. 👍

Jon made an accurate statement since he is a pilot of the 787 and knows what is possible and what isn’t. He clearly stated why tankering wasn’t made for the flight in his reply which you seem to have missed… ”What I’m saying is that particular flight did not dispatch with 242 POB and 125,000 litres of fuel on board, it would not have got airborne off that runway in those conditions,Period.” You’re not helping your cause by challenging a real world pilot.

I can’t see any links to this video which shows a much clearer (sound and vision) recording of the lead up to the crash. Apparently the one posted last week was a video of a video hence the poor quality. https://youtu.be/8XYO-mj1ugg?si=LIrj7cFiNpDh8Bx8 The RAT can be heard by this captain and he now puts possible contaminated fuel as his most likely reason. Flaps 5 appear to be set.

But if the aircraft is designed to use the full runway does it continue to remain on the ground beyond Vr? Sorry if I’m not fully understanding this Jon but seeing how late that 787-9 rotated makes me think it stayed on the ground beyond Vr.

That sounds great until something goes wrong late into the takeoff roll and you don’t have enough runway left to safely stop. I cannot understand the logic of that procedure. It sounds pretty damn dangerous.

Crikey! It’s almost it has a double derated takeoff. Presumably it can’t coast along the runway as it needs to reach V1 in a reasonable time. It seems an odd way to save a bit of fuel.

I haven’t seen much today on the crash. The news has just reported the flight data recorder is being analysed but no mention of the CVR. Given the tail section was the least damaged it’s surprising both haven’t been analysed. I don’t believe the copilot would operate the wrong control. They’re not remotely close. It’s not as if he’s a rookie. Something electronic that controls power to the engines and suffered a failure could be a possibility but that would be almost unheard of wouldn’t it? I still can’t work out why it took most of a 11,500ft runway for the aircraft to get airborne. It sounds like the problem started on the takeoff roll.

I’ve just returned home from our monthly flight sim meeting. Talking to a retired First Choice captain (amongst many other airlines over a 35 year career) his gut feeling was a double bird strike.

Heard of the first, not the second. I would have thought CNN and US newspapers like Washington Post and New York Times would be credible sites.