I am trying to fly from EDDM-EKCH, now I got through where I entered the departure runway and Im up to the part where I pick the departure. Now Im using the default 2004 ATC so how do I know the departure from the airport?I the example the tutorail gave it had the depature when you contacted ATC, but the default ATC dosen't. Please help!(PS - I don't know a thing about SID or STARS.....I just trying to use the plane using the default ATC if I can)Joseph Feleppa

Here is what the tutorial says:Now, before we continue up with the FMC setup,Let

Joseph, you can get SID/STAR only if you will be fly online. :))by example www.ivao.com. in this site are LIVE ATC .. /as me, by example/ and from me you can get STAR/SID information. AS aproach controler on LKPR :))

>Joseph, >you can get SID/STAR only if you will be fly online. :))>by example www.ivao.com. in this site are LIVE ATC .. /as me,>by example/ and from me you can get STAR/SID information. AS>aproach controler on LKPR :))>So now what do I do? (I dont fly online) Do I just skip that part??Joseph Feleppa

Hi Joseph,the FS ATC doesn`t have the capacity to give SID or Star, just the active runways, then you`ll have to:1- Download and print the Charts: EDDM: http://www.geardown.de/vacc-sag/ EKCH: http://www.vacc.dk/2- Get your flight plan: (You won`t have to register) http://fpc.vacc-sag.org/3-Whenever the ATC gives you the active runway, you will know which SID or Star to use.Hope it helps.Jorge Niny

Niny.....is there anymore sites like http://fpc.vacc-sag.org? Cause I fly to and from alot more places than what is listed there.

http://www.vatsim.net/Try to do a search in the regions you`ll fly. You always find realistic flight plans.Another good place is the AVSIM

>>Now when I contact ATC it dosen't give me the info that the>sample ATC gave. So how do I get that departure info?>>Joseph FeleppaIn a nutshell, Joseph, the problem is that you can't fly the tutorial with FlightSim ATC... you have to IMAGINE that what I wrote is what ATC told you to do.Just leave the ATC out of it in flight sim, pretend what's typed there is ATC talking to you, and you'll be fine.