Looking for advice for users of the CH Yoke & Rudder Pedals. I currently have a Saitek Cyborg joystick which is not exactly very realistic for flying the PMDG 737NG - but it *does* have the benefit of a rudder control (you twist the joystick left or right).So if I want to change to the CH Yoke, I imagine I will have to buy the rudder pedals too?? If you don't buy the rudder pedals too, how do you keep the aircraft straight on the runway or steer the aircraft while taxiing???Another question... my current joystick's rudder function operates the rudder and nosewheel steering at the same time! How about with the CH rudder pedals.In the real aircraft, you operate the rudder and brakes with footpedals, and the nosewheel steering with the nosewheel tiller. Is it not possible to simulate this correctly?

>So if I want to change to the CH Yoke, I imagine I will have>to buy the rudder pedals too?? NO NOT ENTIRELY.If you don't buy the rudder>pedals too, how do you keep the aircraft straight on the>runway or steer the aircraft while taxiing???IN REALISM CHECK THE USE AUTORUUDER BOX THEN YOU CAN USE THE YOKE TO STEER.>>Another question... my current joystick's rudder function>operates the rudder and nosewheel steering at the same time!>How about with the CH rudder pedals.AS ABOVE>>In the real aircraft, you operate the rudder and brakes with>footpedals, and the nosewheel steering with the nosewheel>tiller. Is it not possible to simulate this correctly? ONLY IF YOU GET THE PEDALS AS WELL, THEN LEAVING THE RUDDER BOX CHECKED BOTH ALLOWS NOSE WHEEL STEER AND ALLOWS RUDDE USE AS NORMAL.

There are many posts describing the accolades of the CH products. I have both the Yoke and Rudder and I highly recommend them. IMHO really improves the experience.If you just purchase the yoke than you can use the FS function to tie the rudder to the ailerons. While it is not realistic, it solves the problem and saves money.The CH Rudder pedals control the nose wheel and adds differential braking as well.Concerning the tiller, I don't remember if the NG has a tiller.Do a search and you will find a lot more information.

Hi, The NG do have tillers, at least it did when I jumpseated a -800 on a couple of flights. If my memory serves me right, the rudder pedals can only turn the nose wheel approx. 7 degrees in either direction, whereas the tiller can turn the nose wheels to 78 degrees. I don't think there is any way of modelling that in FS.Thanks,BoazEKCH

You will want both believe me. My MS Sidewinder gave out shortly after they stopped selling them and I was screwed. I got the Saitek with the two seperate units (joystick and throttle), and was not at all happy. The Saitek is very stiff and hard on my wrists after a long flight. I took them back after 3 days.Then I was left with basically getting the CH yoke and pedals, even though it was hard on the budget at the time. Let me tell you, they are the cat's meow! It is so nice to not have a strained neck or arm with these controls. I can sit back and enjoy flying the way it was intended. You can use either hand to steer and have better control with the rudders pedals! They are awesome. Only drawback is the sticky yoke. You'll need some non-petrolium based lubricant (I used the stuff they use on swimming pools) to avoid the stickiness. Some people use the spray kind of silicone, but I didn't think it did much. The pool kind of silicone was a bit thick, but after a few days settled in, and I haven't had to touch it since I applied it 10 months ago.Happy flying :-wave

Have to say I'm not too happy with the CH USB yoke. It is very hard to get a feel for where the center position should be in the elevator axis and all too easy to "centre" the yoke only to find it slip a bit further later in either direction. This leads to trimming against elevator which certainly isn't ideal.Obviously this isn't a problem in real aircraft because the trimmed centre position will be where there is no stick force, but in sims you really need to have a defined center position to which you can trim to instead.I have used a silicon spray, but I think the problem is with the spring tension in both directions rather than friction between the casing and the yoke tube.Thinking of referting back to a normal joystick - the new Saitek looked good, especially since it has rudder control and enough hats and switches to be usefull. Are they really that bad though?

David,FYI: I have played around with the Yokes "Dead Zone" and it helped me with the centering problem you are describing.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but perhaps the mere fact the yoke doesn't have a perfect or "defined" center position. I personally have a dead zone on the yoke and pedals for this very reason, but haven't found it a real problem. I just trim as part of the control process.As far as the lubricant is concerned, the silicon spray is not effective in my opinion. I know some say it works for them, but I found the thicker "gel" to be much better. It provides some friction, yet allows for a smooth transition and seems more realistic.