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FSD Talon Service Release - watch out!

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Just a heads-up: the FSD T-38A Service Release installs only to the original folder name - it won't let you install to a temp folder - and will overwrite your aircraft.cfg file. So if you've added lots of repaints, beware. Back up first and copy your entries across afterwards.Wonderful plane - thanks so much, FSD - but how I hate those "no choice" self-installers!Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/cxkaitak.htmlhttp://www.swiremariners.com/cxkaitakv3.jpg

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Hey Mark-No need to do that if your repaints include the paint.cfg file (as they are suppose to).After you install the update, just run the paint scheme manager and it will update the paints in the aircraft.cfg.DO NOT REUSE YOUR OLD AIRCRAFT.CFG in its entirety, since you will loose any of the updates to the aircraft.cfg. Regards,http://home.earthlink.net/~snyders2000/T2.jpg | [LINK:www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?emailsearch=jlsnyder@hdp.com]AIRLINERS.NET PHOTOS][/b

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It is the service release for the T-38 that FSD released recently. It addresses these issues:1. Insertion of the airbrake indicator on the VC instrument panel.2. New flight model with lower idle;3. Scrape point edit to fix the constant taxi sound anomaly.4. Force feedback entires included now in the Aircraft.cfg file.5. Automatic Yaw Damper to be set ON with gear retraction as opposed to ground contact - to restore rudder function in the pattern.6. Vertical Speed selector/rate fixed.7. Problem with default Windows sound playing on some gauge control clicks fixed.Regards,http://home.earthlink.net/~snyders2000/T2.jpg | [LINK:www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?emailsearch=jlsnyder@hdp.com]AIRLINERS.NET PHOTOS][/b

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I downloaded the service pack, but cannot install it for some reason. Yes, I am aware that the documentation says that you can only install it if you did not modify the original folder in any way. But what exactly does that mean? I installed the -38 normally into my FS 2002 folder, which is located on the path E:SpieleFS2002 - is that already too much for the updater? Or does that mean that you must not even manually edit the aircraft.cfg file?

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Thanks, Jeff. I knew I was dumb. However, I still hate self-installers that give no choice of install route. Yours work (of course) but others seem to use them as a kind of status symbol, and the installer can end up overwriting important gauges with 1998 versions, etc. Shudder shudder ...Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/cxkaitak.htmlhttp://www.swiremariners.com/cxkaitakv3.jpg

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I tried to install the update and it aborted stating I didn't have a "registered" version of the Talon?!?!?!?! register.... its freewareBrian

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@ Brian:That is the same error message I got...!

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Strange...I downloaded the update from FSD directly (got it from flightsim.com at first), and now it did work.HTH!

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I cannot find the update at the FSD site .... anyone got the URL for it?Many thanks !

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Unzip the update into a folder of your choice. When you run the updater, tell it to install the newer files into a temporary folder and then you do the drag and drop game with the newer files, over writing the older files.The newer files will be in three folders: Aircraft, Sound and Gauges. These folders are also sub folders within your main FS2K2 folder and it is an easy task to simply drag and drop files from one place to the other. Drag and drop only the files, do not drag and drop any folders!An afterthought - you shoud rename your version of the aircraft.cfg file to aircraftORG.cfg before you drag and drop this file. You should then personally edit the new aircraft.cfg file using your changes which are now contained in the aircraftORG.cfg file.

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Please - use the FSD forum for support.Maybe there is an issue with the software that appears on some non-English operating systems ... on some users systems there is a so far inexplicable updater error which reports an unexpected Registration error message. As Tim has said - there is NO registration required.Usually the error is reported because the user has re-named the original files or folders : the installer fails as it can't find expected files in expected places but in 0.05% of cases it is due to something we can't ascertain yet but which appears to be due to the presence of additional installed texture folders ...So far, about six (6) folks out of the 1,100 update users so far have reported this problem. It is, however, reportedly resolved by doing the following clean install :1. backup any additional texture folders;2. uninstall / delete the T38 and it's folder;3. reinstall the T38 from a folder OTHER THAN the desktop;4. install the update from a folder OTHER THAN the desktop;5. run the paint manager;6. restore the additional texture folders;7. run the paint manager again to configure the additional texture folders; and lastly8. copy the one .bmp texture file as described in the text file enclosed in the updater.This should see it update OK.Best,Steve

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>An afterthought - you shoud rename your version of the aircraft.cfg file to aircraftORG.cfg before you drag and drop this file. You should then personally edit the new aircraft.cfg file using your changes which are now contained in the aircraftORG.cfg file.Bad advice. Save the menu entry texts if you really want to but the installer must replace this file.

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Not really bad advice, Steve. My work-around recommends that you run the install program into a temporary folder which will leave the new aircraft.cfg file in that temp folder. After you rename the original aircraft.cfg file to aircraftORG.cfg you can safely move the new aircraft.cfg file to its home without any problem and then do your editing. The installer does not place the aircraft.cfg file in your T38 folder, you do.

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<<>>I'm a bit lost here, Tim. The whole point of this thread was that I couldn't. I tried, as I always do, to install to a temp directory of my choice, but it would only install to FSD T-38A under FS2002/AIRCRAFT.So was this just me? Is my Internet Security kicking in or something? Because if it loads at all, surely not.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/cxkaitak.htmlhttp://www.swiremariners.com/cxkaitakv3.jpg

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Also make sure you watch out for these other things related to the T-38>The best freeware offering ever created for Flight Simulator>The best freeware Virtual Panel ever created for Flight Simulator>The smoothest flying Military plane with the best flight dynamicsever offered for Flight Simulator Freeware or payware>Some of if not the coolest repaints ever offered for a military plane>Extremly easy on frame rates in all views. Gmax model>First plane with contrail effects tied to wing loading>First plane with flap position coordinated with elevator angle of attack.>The only plane with realistic pilots in both seats, >The best nightlighting both inside and outside of any plane anyone noticed the tail strobe flashing.>The only plane with realistic movement of the plexiglass dome awesome!>The only plane with realistic movement of the plexiglass dome in thevirtual panel view.Have you ever noticed how the closer the real life something is the features that make it that way become harder to identify. Thats because we are familiar with real life effects. These nuances seperating the very good from the very great become hard to identify Again be carefull and watch out for these they will get you if your not paying attentionDennis WaggonerKind of like the Old Navy commercial "Where can you find these""Where else! www.fsd-international.com"

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