Hello to all,Although I do not master all systems in the 767, I can land the aircraft in auto land mode. Actually when I select LOC then APP the three autopilots will automatically engage at 1500 ft and I will make a perfect landing. However I understand this is not the normal practise and the pilot takes control of the aircraft for at least take-off and landing.So for landing the question is : Do you disconnect completely the autopilot or do you keep at least one autopilot. The procedure on this issue is not very clear in the check list and I have not seen anywhere "disconnect the autopilot".If the autopilot is disconnected, do you keep the autothrust ?An other question, is it possible to make a manual turn with one autopilot engaged ?Thanks for your help.Vincent

*Autopilots override any flight control input*You can keep the A/T on for as long you like, the wind could be a contributory factor maybe. Again it is up to you when you disconnect the AP - no specific time, apart from generally it is a good idea to be visual with the runway first.

Vincent,I believe that in the real 767 after you arm the APP mode you have to manually engage the second and third autopilots for autoland. When the FS2002 patch came out, the autopilots engaged themselves - and I am sure that there was a "fix" somewhere that stopped them from engaging on their own.Did a search and could not seem to find it.With all three autopilots engaged and LAND3 lit up the pilot does not need to land the aircraft - the autopilot will do it for you.If you want to land it yourself, your best bet is to disengage the autopilot at some point on final.The Autopilot and the Autothrottle are separate systems, so yes - it is possible to use your autothrottles while landing. I personally like to have control over the throttles manually.Is it possible to make a manual turn with the autothrottle engaged? hmmm.. I'm not 100% sure but i think not. I can not recall off the top of my head (at work) but I am pretty sure that you can not have the autopilot engaged without a roll mode armed. You are either in Heading Hold, Heading Select, LNAV, or one of the LOC modes. You can however leave the autopilot OFF and use the Flight Director to fly the plane, with the inputs coming directly from any of the roll modes (If you use heading select for a turn, the Flight Director shows you how to make a turn).I personally like to activate the APP MODE while flying an ILS and then fly the aircraft myself down to the ground - I guess it is all personal preference really.For takeoffs, I personally engage VNAV and the AutoThrottles to provide the Flight Director with a climb profile while providing the proper amounts of thrust (I do not turn on the AutoPilot - this is a complex concept that I am sure someone else can explain).I need a life.Ian Elchitz CYWG

Vincent,You have already got pretty good replies.I might add that frequently pilots like to fly 767 (or other heavies) fully manually below 10,000 ft. There may be some exceptions to this 'rule' but at least Eric indicated that this is what he prefers. He also provided some reasoning why it is not (in his opinion) a good idea to have auto-throttle engaged during approach/landing when below 10,000 ft.These things are not part of a checklist since they are usually left to pilot's discretion.Michael J.

>Vincent, >>I believe that in the real 767 after you arm the APP mode >you have to manually engage the second and third autopilots >for autoland. >>When the FS2002 patch came out, the autopilots engaged >themselves - and I am sure that there was a "fix" somewhere >that stopped them from engaging on their own. >>Did a search and could not seem to find it. >>With all three autopilots engaged and LAND3 lit up the pilot >does not need to land the aircraft - the autopilot will do >it for you. >Ian, You can change this under the "Realism and Carrier Options" section of the PIC menu.Selecting the "AFDS Automatic multi-channel" option causes autoland mode to engage automatically when APP mode is selected.My personal preference is to engage the autopilots manually.

Actually in most of airlines (like United, or Delta for ex.) when weather is below CAT 1 minimums it is mandatory to use Autoland for security purposes. When not, the pilot can decide whether to use it or not.Read it in the 757/767 Ops Manual of United, but I'm almost sure Delta has the same policy, dont know others.RegardsNicolas

Thanks for all your answers. It helps a lot.Vincent

As Working Stiff says, Ian, automatic Triple Engage (or rather, one armed the other two engaged at the push of the APP button) is a carrier option. Qantas 767's, for example, have it. Incidentally, this is the standard on the 747-400.BTW, I learned recently that the Electrical System "Bus Isolates" on our 767's as soon as you push the APP button at any altitude(Thanks HP!). I also picked up a tip about single A/P approaches from a 767 Engineering Training Manual: Apparently, the real aircraft will flare even with only one A/P engaged. However, the A/P will disconnect at around 5' Rad Altitude (No rollout function).Hope this helps.Cheers.Ian.