I have been experimenting with various loads, but always seem to find I am nose up 2-3 degrees when on final appproach. Is this normal for the 767? At what distance from touchdown should I ideally be nose up?I notice in the 'Situations' there is a saved approach and when you run it, you are slightly nose down on finals almost to the runway, this never happens to me when I set up an approach.I know it depends on weight/fuel etc, but can someone please please give me a 'general' guide to a good approach configuration (Flaps, speeds, trim, weight etc ) that I can practice with?Many thanks for any advice!Graham

Graham,A typical attitude for a 763 on approach is ~ 1.5-3 degrees nose up.Your attitude reflects right speed & weight combo as far as I know.There is no general configuration. Of course I could go run PIC and get some basic numbers for given weights etc., but I urge you to do so yourself.Very simple. Preflight the FMC and you will see takeoff speeds. Get the bird in the air with a fuel load not exceeding MLW and press INIT REF once airborne and voil

Thanks Tero for the quick reply.I guess I am not doing too much wrong then. I just find the view is not too good with nose up and so assumed it should be nose down until the last few miles. I do use the 'seat-up' FS2002 view adjustment so I can see out, but I find when I get close to the ground this false view sets you up for a bad and unrealistic touchdown. Guess I could do with an IFR view panel, like the VFR one, that means you can see the ground all the way down the ILS.Thanks again for the advice, I will keep practicing.Graham

I can see my aiming spot all the way down final. Can you not?Lee Hetherington (KBED)

Hi Graham, Maybe you have too much fuel, and are therefore too heavy. Make sure you have less than say 20% fuel on landing.CheersIan

I find with the 2-3% nose up attitude you lose sight of the runway as you get close. How can you see the runway all the way down when you are nose up, surely with the standard view setting you must lose sight of it at sometime? Maybe my view settings in FS2002 need changing?Ian I have tried this with 15% fuel, but still no view of the runway 'all' the way down. If I try and keep runway in view it eventually means pointing the nose down and so my VS drops to over 1000fpm, which very quickly puts me below the GS. With a little nose up of say 2%, that keeps me nicely on the glide all the way down but without the view.Am I doing something wrong here after all then? From the first reply I though everything was normal?Cheers for the helpGraham

I am with Lee on this one. The attitude is usually between 1 and 3 deg N/U (flap25 or Flap30) and with the default eye height and normal panel view I can see the target touchdown zone (1000 to 1500 ft down the runway) all the way down. Of course, once the near end of the runway slips under your field of view you should be shifting your view to the far end of the runway (just as in real life), but you can still see enough runway to make a safe and effective touchdown.Kevin in CYOW

Hi KevinI am still very confused how you can see all the runway to almost landing, with a nose up attitude of 1-3 degrees?! As I get down to the last few miles on final, all I can usually see out of my window is maybe the far end of the runway and the fields 'beyond' the airfield. If I want to keep the runway numbers in sight as I approach I always have to use the FS2002 'seat-up' adjust setting, which raises me up for a better view down. Do you not need to do this at all? Is your view set to default 100% etc etc?Thanks for the replyGraham

Graham,I'm not Kevin, but anyways...Are you using the EADI to check the a/c attitude. Hopefully so. :) And remember, the smaller dashes are 2.5 degrees and the first longer one is 5 degrees.With the default settings, with right speed and weight (and flaps), you'll get about 2.5 ANU attitude at VREF. In this attitude it is easy to see the runway entirely from the default PIC cockpit view, there should be NO problem whatsoever in seeing the runway in landing configuration.If there, however, is a problem, then some of these are wrong:- speed- weight- flaps- view settings alteredPlease check that you have the corresponding international units settings in FS2002 config set to "LBS" if you are using ZFW of 245klbs. The weight unit systems MIGHT cause some confusion to speeds etc., but as I recall it, PIC won't allow to enter 245 to ZFW if you're using the metric system. I don't remember how it is, if one is using american system and tries to input metric ZFW. In this case the FMC would calculate the speeds for a MUCH lighter aircraft than what it actually is, and this could explain the higher nose up attitude you are getting... <-- probably not the reason thoughbrTero

Yes I am using the EADI and I guess I have wrongly assumed all this time that if the aircraft nose it pointing up 1-3 degrees, then this would push your view of the ground further ahead. I do have all confiurations correct as suggested. What I don't understand here is, if my approach attitude is the same as everyone else's 1-3 degress nose up, why can they see more of the ground than me? Surely we would have the same view limitations? This is why I was asking if another factor could affect my view?Thanks againGraham

Graham,The only other thing I can think of is that I have the forward zoom set to 0.75 but I don't think that would affect the runway view problems you are experiencing. If I can ever figure out how to post a screen shot (or if one of the other more forum savy users could) we could compare notes. Wish I could offer more help but I am at a loss. When sitting on the runway for take-off is the horizon line about half way down the windscreen? I think mine is there (based on memory since I am not at my home computer) but I will have to wait until tonight to confirm. At least that way we could compare initial views.Kevin in CYOW.

Is there any chance you've been playing with your panel.cfg, particularly the view angle/zoom settings in there? Have you installed on of the VFR/Landing views floating around?Lee Hetherington (KBED)

GuysOn what has been said, I decided to do a complete reinstall of PIC767. Over the months I have added a few different things, like the VFR view mentioned (which never worked!). I guess I must have screwed things up somewhere, because the view is now much better with the new install.Thanks again for your replies!Graham