Tero, thank you very much for the clear explanation....Now i have clear ideas on those weight issues!Best Regards..Tommy

Martin,is there anyway you can post those Vref numbers for landing here? my Matt Zagoren's charts don't have them neither.( i have just downloaded it)many thanksOD

I just downloaded the file 757perf.zip from the library and the landing speeds are certainly there. They are on page 12 in 757performance.pdf. They are called "Minimum Maneuvering and Landing Flap Maneuvering Speeds (LFMS)", but they are in deed what we normally refer to as Vref.Martin767 fetishistIt's a lot like life and that's what's appealing