I am building a home cockpit, but I dont know the height that the MCP sits at. I want to have the right prospective when looking at it from a seated postion. Anyone have an idea of its height?Brian

Hi,Look at:http://www.simpit.de/b767dim/index.htmlRegards,Kiekhttp://www.nicokaan.nl/

Thanks so much for the reply. I keep getting told to go to this site. But....unless I am missing it, it does not have the info I need.But thank youBrian

How accurate do you need this measurement to be, Brian? I can probably get it for you sometime next week, but may have to "fudge" the measurement a little. I tried getting a height measurement for the MCP on a 747-400, but various factors made it somewhat difficult (I think what caused the problem was either estimating the thickness of the carpet...or the thickness of footrest, whichever was in the way at the time). There may also be minor variations between one 767 and another.Would you need a measurement from the lower edge of the MCP (closest to the pilot)... or the lower edge of the sheet metal "tray" in which the MCP sits? The MCP sits slightly proud of the tray.At least the 767 glareshield doesn't seem to have as many irregularities at the 747 (e.g. glareshield control panels not aligning with each other).Cheers.Ian.

IanTHANK YOU!!!!!! I have been trying to get this for a month now. Really the only things I need are "close" measuremnts.What I need is like from the floor to the top of the MCP, if I was sitting in the left hand seat, and I looked at the middle of the MCP what is its highest point?I never been in a cockpit before so my problem is how things sit relevant to a pilot sitting in his seat, I mean if sitting straight looking forward do my eyes look over the MCP? Would I have to look down alittle to see it? Like in a car look forward u see all windsheild, look down and u see dash board and then some of the dash.Most of the other measurements I can see from the one site just not the one I really want LOL.Hope I was able to explain this well enough.Brian

>THANK YOU!!!!!! I have been trying to get this for a month>now. Really the only things I need are "close" measuremnts.>Hi, Brian.As I recall, I was able to get MCP height measurements down to about 1/4" inch, so if this is ok....?>What I need is like from the floor to the top of the MCP, if I>was sitting in the left hand seat, and I looked at the middle>of the MCP what is its highest point?Not sure what you mean by middle? (after you have just said you wanted the top (opposite the left seat). The underside of the MCP (bottom edge, closest to the pilot) is a lot easier to measure (see point "A" in the diagram below). i.e. From one solid surface to another (generally, no imaginary extensions of horizontal lines are required). Many cockpit measurements can be referenced to this point.>I mean if sitting>straight looking forward do my eyes look over the MCP?Not sure how a pilot sits in a 767, but a 747 pilot has eye-alignment devices which assist in the positioning of your head. As far as I can see, the 747's pilots eyes just peek over the slope of the top of the MCP. If you rested a long straight edge/ ruler on top of the sloped MCP/glareshield, the stick would poke you in the eye (or an inch or two lower). i.e. Definitely well above the top of the MCP in the horizontal plane. This allows the pilot to have maximum visibility out of the window and also a relatively clear view of the instruments (albeit distorted).http://members.ozemail.com.au/~b744er/EyeAlignment.gifI didn't really want to repeat the effort I made to measure up a 747-400 cockpit(some time ago). It really is difficult to get some of these measurements... the process can take months, if not years, when you are doing it in your spare time... and I have been known to make an error or two ;-) I do have a primitive inclinometer, for measuring the angles of instrument panels within a few degrees or so. I don't know if all Boeing instrument panels are angled the same, but the main 747-400 instrument panel is 22 degrees to the vertical (68 degrees to the horizontal). Some instruments, such as attitude indicators are designed for a specific panel slope and cannot be mounted on panels of a different slope.Anyway, I'll try to get back to you within a few days.Cheers.Ian.

IanWhat you just gave me is GREAT!!!I can actually work from your diagram. As far as I can tell from the floor to the bottom of the instrument panel is like 18", then my panel is something like 13 inches or so in height. (Iam at work so I dont have my measurements right now)It doesnt have to be exact just close ( after all I am a govt worker LOL) And when you said a 1/4"... nice, I was just hoping in a range of like 2 or 3 inches :)But as I said, what you have gave me here I can work from it.THANK YOU SO MUCHBrian

"I can actually work from your diagram."It's probably better that you don't, Brian. I didn't realize that the 767 was so different from the 747-400!"As far as I can tell from the floor to the bottom of the instrument panel is like 18",..."My measurements, taken today, put them at 19" (near the ADI/HSI section of the main instrument panel. The section near the EICAS screens are a little higher.http://members.ozemail.com.au/~b744er/767/...tDimensions.gifI was a little surprised that the instrument panel was not at right angles to the MCP housing. The surface of the MCP was a little bumpy, so I got a few different angle readings on my inclinometer (but it's around 20 to 22 degrees). The footrest was about 2" above the somewhat irregular surface of the cockpit floor(around the footwell area)... and from this 2" baseline, I was able to measure directly up to the glareshield. The height of the 767 MCP seems to be about 2" higher than the 747-400 MCP... and the angles appear to be somewhat different also. Anyway, hope this helps?Cheers.Ian.

Ian Thanks so much! Its GREAT. I am going to start cutting on friday. Again Thanks.Brian