Reading all of the crap that's being posted here - deliberate attempts to #### developers, distributors, beta testers and NORMAL forum followers off - I see no need for this forum to even be OPEN until the release. So if it IS shut down, or goes to a "moderated" forum, like PSS', you'll know whom to thank.Merry Christmas

Its unfortunate, but I am glad they are doing it now... it was rediculous before and maybe not the whining will stop.. Dan AntosPMDG MD11 Beta Tester