H i'am a newcomer at this but i read the manual and i know how to set up my own game but can someone please teach me how to join a ATC game or a regular game on Vatsim please tell me where a good manual is or please one of you people teach me how to get on a game....

There is an excellent tutorial on the VATSIM web site under the "Getting Started" heading on the left side bar. Some may say it's difficult to understand, but if you follow the directions exactly, you'll be fine. I actually started with it and then ditched it once I got the hang of things and ended up just fine. Hope this helps.

I must admit that help manual isn't very helpful either. I made a flight yesterday but couldn't get on either last night. I have SB, had that working but could not connect to either of the 3 US servers.I have no problem connecting to my VA for flights but this would not find the games on any of their servers.

Download ServerInfo. On server info there is an update that will update the current server IP Addresses. You copy this new data file over the current one and that should fix it. I suspect you are trying to connect to the servers using old IP addresses.Here are the latest USA servers. You can also check on the Servers page of Server Info the connection that pings back fastest. 64.246.28.98 209.61.182.205 208.224.174.24Mark.

thanks Mark, I'll give this a try this weekend to see if I can get in.Appreciate the help