Steve - If you decide to go with a GS, I'd be interested to know what the OC guarantee on the memory is also.Trip

The reason I was asking this is because I was going to go for a system upgrade from my Tbird 1200. I want to overclock a 1.8 Northwood and was going to upgrade the vidcard at the same time, but didn't really want to spend alot doing it.. basically a economical overclock upgrade.Chris

I purchased a Leadtek GF4 Ti 4200 128MB card last week. I can now run FS2k2 with everything maxed, all sliders maxed, with 2X AA and the FPS never drops below 28 except over NY City and London U.K. where it goes down to about 22 when I ma directly over the city. With AA off, it stays at 30, where I have my target framerate set.SYSTEMAthlon XP 2100ASUS A7V 333 MoboCorsair PC 2700 512 DDR RAMXp ProLeadtel GF4 ti4200 128 MBAnd I *did* notice a difference in textures going from a 64MB Geforce 2 GTS, to the GF4.