joystick recommendation

[Guest Richard_H]

I too am a convertee from the FF sticks. I had the concern over the lack of trim forces with the yoke. But there is sufficient pull/push required if you are out of trim to give you the right level of indication.However, if you really need an FF joystick, why pay $99 for Microsoft? For a marginal reduction in force feedback strength, you can get the Thrustmaster Fox 2 Shock for $29. I use it away from home on my laptop, and does the trick (IMHO).

[Guest]

With my Logitech FF stick, I can go into the control panel/Joystick setup and adjust the center spring from 0 - 100%. Are you sure you can't do the same with MS sticks?If I had to choose between a high-quality stick or a FF stick, I would definitely go with high-quality. FF is somewhat "neat", but nothing to write home about..- Kenny B

[Guest]

The MS FFB stick doesn't have a spring. It's made completely different from the typical run of the mill joystick. It's pure quality throughout. My MS#1 is over five years old and still going strong and I've beat the tar out of it with combat sims. It'll outlast me. Same with the #2.

[Guest Dean]

>The MS FFB stick doesn't have a spring. It's made >completely different from the typical run of the mill >joystick. It's pure quality throughout. My MS#1 is over five >years old and still going strong and I've beat the tar out >of it with combat sims. It'll outlast me. Same with the >#2. If I had to guess I would say Kenny is referring to an "electronic spring" since the adjustment is made through the control panel. What do you like about the MSFF2 over the FF1?

[Guest Dean]

>With my Logitech FF stick, I can go into the control >panel/Joystick setup and adjust the center spring from 0 - >100%. Are you sure you can't do the same with MS sticks? Kenny,Your saying then that you get both centering forces and FF forces with the Logitech in FS2002?

[Guest]

Yes, but the more you increase the centering force, the more you loose the subtle FF forces.I keep it way down for airplanes and way up for helicopters. - Kenny B

[Guest Ron Freimuth]

> And I also like the fact that there's no centering forces. >>:-lol >That's the one thing I don't like about my FF1. I prefer the >joystick to center rather than flop over. Real AC controls don't generally center either. They go to the 'Free Stick' location.Ron

[Guest]

Planes such as the 777 do have yoke shake prior to a stall. It is built into the plane's system computer.Robbie